Moon Walkers.

[tinman]

Hands in good condition pt2

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Hands in good condition pt3
Can even hold a shaver,and have a shave using soap.

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Hands in good condition pt4

[AB Hammer]

One of you naysayers should go to work for NASA and become an astronaut and learn for yourselves. Then they will be able to come back and tell the rest of you the your programed beliefs are full of $#!+. Till then I guess you will just go on with your programing just like those I will be confronting soon who won't believe what I will be showing. 

[MileHigh]

Brad:

You are still in a very loopy place.  One more time in your long post you contradict yourself.

How on earth(or the moon) do you come up with the astronaut weighing the same on the moon as he weighs on earth. Continually you make the same mistake over and over--you are really starting to make your self look stupid--this is the (must believe in the moon landings)stupid. The astronaut that weigh's 130 KG's on earth will not weigh 130 KG's on the moon. Do you not know the difference between the earth's and moon's gravitational force. If your astronaut weighs 130KG's on the moon,he will weigh some where near 787 KG's here on earth.--do you see how flawed your statement is,and how incorrect you are when you try and say the same astronaut will weigh the same here on earth as he dose on the moon.

I said this, "A 130 kg astronaut hitting the moon at 2 meters per second will hit the moon with the same impact energy as a 130 kg astronaut hitting the Earth at 2 meters per second."

You are making yourself look beyond stupid.  How many times does it have to be pounded into your head that when you use kilograms you are talking about mass?  I am talking about the MASS of the astronaut.  Let it sink in.  Even though he weighs less on the moon the impact energy will be the same.

You always try and twist and turn thing's around as soon as you realize you have screwed up,and now people watching this thread will see what you have done.

That's total bullshit because you are getting frustrated and angry so you need to make up stories about me that are false.  I will just remind you that I am the one that has no problem admitting when I am wrong and you are the one that says nothing, turns blue, and runs away.

Because the 170-pound astronaut and the 120-pound space suit form a 290-pound "ground thumper" that hits the ground for every bounce.  That makes the ground shake, a small portion of the energy from the bounce makes the flag pole rattle.

You are quoting me again so I will say it again and we will see if it sinks into your head:  When I posted that I was using colloquial English and I meant 290 pounds of mass.  Subsequent to that I switched to kilograms so there would be no ambiguity.  Now can your brain process that or is it going to pass right through you again like you are not even there and you are going to repeat it again?

We all know that MH-we all know that the same mass with the same velocity will impact any surface with the same energy.

Here is your moment of lucidity where you are making sense and agreeing with me.  And you are also contradicting yourself as evidenced by your other statements.

But once again MH,the astronauts will not be traveling at the same velocity-will they.

WHO SAID THAT?   You said that but I didn't.  Here you are showing your limitations one more time.  I only said that a 130 kg astronaut hitting the surface of the moon would cause a tremor.  I said nothing about velocity.  But your brain cannot cope with taking what I said at face value and you have to rewrite the statement in your head and change what I am saying.

You are not going to change what I am saying to make it fit into a scenario that only you can cope with and understand.  You have to take what I said at face value, period.  I know it's hard for you, you feel compelled to twist what I am saying into your own scenario because that's the only thing you can understand.  The answer to that is NO, take what I am saying to you at face value WITHOUT CHANGING IT.  Can you cope with that?

We have all seen the NASA video's you love so much,and we also know due to the difference in the gravitational acceleration between earth and the moon,the astronauts will have an do have a lower velocity on the moon when they bounce around--we can all see this in the slow motion NASA video's MH-->nice try,but i caught you out again.

I am going to pound it into your head until you get it.  In my example I don't care about the velocity and I never said anything about the velocity.  I just said that an 130 kg astronaut hitting the surface of the moon will cause a tremor that that might be able to make the flag shake.  Beyond that, when an astronaut that is on Earth and jumps up with 500 joules of energy, he will hit the ground with 500 joules of energy in the impact when he lands.  If the same astronaut is on the moon and jumps up with 500 joules of energy then he will hit the moon's surface with 500 joules of energy when he lands.  In both cases he hits the ground with the same speed but he has more air time on the moon.  Myself and LibreEnergia have already told you this.

Your moon quakes DO NOT come from an astronaut and his suit that have a combined weight of 290lb's as you tried to peddle-your moon quakes come from an astronaut and suit that has a combine weight of only 47.85lb's.
The only reason you are fighting this with your incorrect rubbish,is so it looks better for you ,as you know that anyone that reads a measly weight of 47.85lb's as being the cause for these moon quakes that are large enough in magnitude to make a flag wave around,are just going to laugh at you.

And you are back in your Twilight Zone again.  One more time you are saying that it's astronaut's equivalent weight on the moon that determines his impact energy when it's his mass that determines his impact energy.

You seemingly cannot understand that it's the astronaut's mass that determines the impact energy and not his effective weight.  And yet in the same posting you say, "We all know that MH-we all know that the same mass with the same velocity will impact any surface with the same energy."   You have got scrambled brains.

The weight of that mass changes between the earth and the moon. On the moon,the astronauts velocity is slower due to the lower gravitational force,than it would be here on earth if the same motion of the astronaut on the moon is recreated here on earth--can you not see the reduced velocity in there movements on the moon MH,from those lovely videos?.

I will tell you again, I did not mention the velocity in my example.

One last time MH-which has the most impact force
1-290lb's impacting the moon at 2m/sec, or 47.85lb's impacting the moon at 2m/sec ?

You still cannot understand that the magnitude of the impact is determined by the mass and not the weight.

The energy in the impact is one-half the mass times the velocity-squared.

Get your weights right MH,as it makes a big difference when you are in an environment that has 1/6th the gravity of earth. And stop trying to twist things around,so as you can try and save your idiotic moon quake theory-->which i might mention that you dropped as soon as you thought PW had a better theory--which fell in a big hole as well

The moon quake theory is perfectly legitimate and I did not drop it.  I said I favoured PW's explanation over the moon quake theory but they were both viable candidates.  And that shows you how serious your issues are.  You can be told stuff straight to your face multiple times and it doesn't register with you or it does resister with you but you like to spin the "truth" just as bad or even worse than the politicians that you despise.  Either way, it's a serious issue with you.

MileHigh