Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator

[conradelektro]

Don't you think that if people are doing such cons so openly on a place like indiegogo.com that they are putting their selves at considerable  risk of prosecution and jail time for fraud - especially since they are based in the U.S. and not in Canada like GDS?

The risk running a scam is smaller than e.g. being a honest electrician or builder. An electrician or builder gets sued by dishonest clients much more often than a scamer by his scammed clients.

And the justice system is in big parts fraudulent itself, e.g a lawyer taking advantage of a client or a judge serving a powerful interest group or political interests.

If you look at the offers at indiegogo.com carefully you will find disclaimers all over. You are participating without any guaranties.

The best scams are like this:

- you offer a money back guarantee
- you demand a modest fee off e.g. 5% of the money you take in
- and after 1 years you pay back the money
- of course you do nothing in this one year besides cashing in the 5% and you may get 1% or 2% in addition from a bank parking the money there for a year.

This scam worked better before 2006 (before the financial crash) because you could count on interest rates of up to 7% for just parking the money at a bank for one year (big amounts, more than a million Dollars).

There are many billion Dollar scams out there: insurance that does not pay in case of damage, investments failing, real estate worth much less than people pay for it, useless things sold for a high price (e.g. fashion items) or useless "how to do books" (from becoming rich to becoming beautiful via becoming healthy and overunity machines).

The state offers little protection against scams! And most of the politics going on in a country are also a scam, at least a scam for being paid a lot for doing nothing but making promises.

The only one protecting you from a scam is yourself by being observant and smart. And even then you will fall for many scams during your life.

Relax, scams are a big part of living amongst people. I would say, scamming is 50% of being human!

Greetings, Conrad

[ramset]

Conrad
You sound like you have a quite unique perspective ?

Perhaps from the point of view of a homeless person with nothing to loose , or take ??

The possible repercussions for this marketing too and scamming the average man [blue collar worker] ....would be very very risky indeed !

on many levels !

Just one mans opinion..
and personal experience !

Chet K

[SoManyWires]

its safe to call this one a scam.
there is the lack of management.
they really want it to work too, however it has never been able to and this is why they are avoiding risking others testing it to discover the crowdfunding campaign is still wanting to run full tilt until the slot machine coughs up many thousands of dollars worth of change.
change that will help change their life only.
with 2.2 million dollar goals in mind, these people just might be preapproved representives of mr sino and the rest of the delusionaries  that are only visionaries of new angles to create similar fraud.

the marketing always falls short of providing proof.
it always tries to move forward without providing proof.
they always claim they already have a working device, and never will show proof.
enough time is able to pass for them to collect from the cookiejar of greed that is being filled by
the least greedy and most caring of people.
they realize by avoiding proof, time can work on their $ide.

should you ever meet them, they will tell you to go away and not to bother them because they are say they are too busy to validate their proof of not being a modified scam similar to how the qeg copied the nitWITT'$ institute of ripping people off while throwing in piles of religious garbage so you left them off easily due to an obvious mental health condition that makes them think everyone owes them 2.2 million dollars.

this scam applies itself well to the one in this article when considering its limited description of its use of magnets. another one that is not transparent and uses similar device design principles. http://revolution-green.com/noca-clean-energy-magnetic-power-generator-believe-it-or-not/


of course that might not be accurate at all, perhaps they are willing to prove themselves as more honest by allowing 3rd party trusted testers to test on site long before this crowfunding campaign is allowed to pay forward any winfall$.
dammit, i missread the timeline payout date, it looks like they created 24 grand in cash and were already paid by indiegogo.

are there any other crowdfunders they have still active?

[MileHigh]

True Dat !!
MH
when was the last time a claimant cited jet propulsion Labs ...NASA and home land security in their Vetting process ?
as well as 8x10  glossy's [you tube Vid] identifying principles and  staff ?

Chet K

Just because they say so?  Remember when the QEG was "minutes" away from achieving over unity but they had to catch a plane - just because Hopeless Girl said so?

If I worked in the tech sector and looking at their web page I can't take them seriously do you really think a conference room full of 15 NASA engineers is going to take them seriously?

[SoManyWires]

Conrad
You sound like you have a quite unique perspective ?

Perhaps from the point of view of a homeless person with nothing to loose , or take ??

The possible repercussions for this marketing too and scamming the average man [blue collar worker] ....would be very very risky indeed !

on many levels !

Just one mans opinion..
and personal experience !

Chet K

haha well, not too many homeless people are buying oscilloscopes.
i saw the comical value in his sarcasm when he made the remark about becoming a distributor.
you do realize he was being sarcastic?
and he did just buy a osciloscope, so, seems like something a homeless person would not do when you think about it really. lol

all the best