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Another Magnetic Motor Claim

Started by markdansie, April 10, 2016, 09:32:25 PM

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e2matrix

I see they say they are a group of engineers in South Korea ... and are looking for investors.   Not saying that is good or bad.   South Korea has some pretty smart engineers - after all they have made the Samsung smart phones which has the largest share of the world smart phone market as of 2015:  Samsung: 320.2197 million (22.5% market share),  Apple: 225.8506 million (15.9% market share)

verpies

Quote from: conradelektro on April 11, 2016, 01:20:13 PM
Who in his right mind would want to do a "black box" verification?
Any investor who does not want to lose his money and any inventor who is afraid to have his secret stolen.
Such verification yields the undisputable J/kg measurement, that cannot be faked.

Quote from: conradelektro on April 11, 2016, 01:20:13 PM
That can never be a "verification". Verification is the opposite of "black box".
Such "Black Box" test verifies that the inventor indeed has something extraordinary in terms of J/kg.
Yildiz never allowed for the measurement of his motor's energy density, or no investor/inspector was smart enough to do this measurement.

Quote from: conradelektro on April 11, 2016, 01:20:13 PM
The way to do it: the investor or prospective manufacturer signs a non disclosure agreement and the black boxes are opened completely. The strip tease has to happen all the way and penetration including ejaculation has to happen. The investor or manufacturer has to be allowed to involve a reasonable number of experts in the strip tease and the union.
That's a description of Whitebox inspection (or open box) and it should come after the investor/inspector is convinced that the inventor indeed has something extraordinary, e.g. by prior Blackbox inspection yielding a high J/kg value that eliminates known batteries or other known energy sources. 
Whitebox inspection is likely to involve a security deposit and stringent NDA and contracts, since it presents a serious risk to the inventor.

Quote from: conradelektro on April 11, 2016, 01:20:13 PM
So, if an inventor proposes a "black box verification" walk away immediately.
Just the opposite!  An offer to do Blackbox inspection is a sign of investor's honesty and does not put the inventor at risk of having his invention plagiarized.  It also protects the investor from Advanced Fee Fraud also known as "Pay before you look".

There is also a 3rd possibility:  e.g.  Tariel Kapanadze who routinely allows for a "Graybox" inspection, which is almost a Blackbox inspection masquerading as a Whitebox inspection.
I thinks he demands money for it, too.   Does anyone know how much?

MagnaProp

Where is the patent? I assume there is one that might give more hints as to how this system operates, or at least is supposed to operate?

I know a patent doesn't mean something works but I'd like to see one for this device if it exists.

Pirate88179

Quote from: markdansie on April 10, 2016, 09:32:25 PM
Good luck with this one


http://revolution-green.com/free-energy-magnetic-motor-generator-1-10-kw/


Kind regards
Mark

At 5:07 in the video he hits a switch in the box with his right hand while he reaches to spin the motor shaft with his left.  You can hear the click easily and, since it is energizing something in the circuit, in my speakers I can even detect an electronic "click" from the camera circuitry at the same moment.  Like turning on a light switch in a room when you have a radio on...you hear the click on the radio.
I have not watched any more, that was all I need to see.  He even tries to "sneak" while doing this and quickly pulls his hand back and away from the box.
Total Bogus.
Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

markdansie

Quote from: Pirate88179 on April 12, 2016, 12:51:01 AM
At 5:07 in the video he hits a switch in the box with his right hand while he reaches to spin the motor shaft with his left.  You can hear the click easily and, since it is energizing something in the circuit, in my speakers I can even detect an electronic "click" from the camera circuitry at the same moment.  Like turning on a light switch in a room when you have a radio on...you hear the click on the radio.
I have not watched any more, that was all I need to see.  He even tries to "sneak" while doing this and quickly pulls his hand back and away from the box.
Total Bogus.
Bill
Thanks Bill you have great powers of observation