MH's ideal coil and voltage question

[MileHigh]

Chet, you are just being a pain in the ass.  Now some people understand a resonating wine glass, or a bell, or a tuning fork.  It's just a means to store energy, not create energy.  Hate away all you want, your hate will change nothing.

Smokey2 was just a Big Fish story guy, nothing more than that.

[ramset]

I apologize to the membership for my misguided Zeal.

there are truly good Points... being made here
.....

respectfully
and Back to my Bench

Chet K
PS
for clarity
I am not being "smarmy" here
it is a sincere apology to the members for interrupting useful dialog .

and I hope things can proceed with respect to all "opinions"  .

[picowatt]

The equalization I refer to comes about via the simultaneous process of an applied emf that wants to drive a current, vs. a reactionary process that wants to lower that current. To me this is very much like a negative feedback mechanism commonly used in linear amplifiers. Your amplifier may have an inherent gain of 1000, but through the application of negative feedback, the gain is reduced to some desired level, such as 100. In the case of our self-inductance, the negative feedback mechanism is the self-induced current and B field, which happens to oppose the B field resulting from the applied voltage. It is not quite an exact analogy, but conceptually similar. It all happens in real time, simultaneously, and only the end result is observable.

I like where you're going with this...

PW

[minnie]

   It only happens in real time,simultaneously,and only the end result is observable.
   Sounds good to me.
          John.

[tinman]

From this perspective I can appreciate whats being suggested, I still don't agree with it, however, an agreement isn't required for appreciation, and I do appreciate the whats being suggested.    There are many things that folk in general aren't on the same page on, and that is the real problem. 


It is great to see you hear, your work on the Adams motor was an inspiration to me.




Regards

Yes,it dose get confusing,but i am trying to stick to what actually happens when i use terms.

A voltage can exist without current flow,and you do not get current flow until that voltage is applied across the device.
So when you apply a voltage across a coil,a current is induced through that coil. This creates a magnetic field that then self creates the CEMF,and that in turn induces a !counter! current ,that apposes that which induced it in the first place.

But anyway,we all know what is being said


Brad