MH's ideal coil and voltage question

[tinman]

Seemingly yes, if you do not count the ideal wire that shorts the inductor.
Pay attention to this issue and the associated terminology because in my opinion this is the reason why you and MH cannot agree.
  That is why the current does not become infinite immediately.
Impedance has two components.  Please consider both of them.

Yes, there is no resistance to current flow but there is impedance to current flow.

But that current flow must still be the same throughout the circuit/loop,regardless of the impedance created by the inductor.

As we have both stated,a voltage cannot be measured at any two points across a shorted ideal inductor. Adding the ideal voltage source to the open inductor,also shorts that inductor,due to the fact that the ideal voltage source also has no internal resistance--the loop is complete ,void of any resistance to current flow,regardless of the value of that current flow.

Brad

[tinman]

That's classic Brad.  From what I can gather the schematic that he posted did not match his written description from a few posts earlier, creating confusion.

The schematic i posted represents your circuit MH
Would it be easier if i placed a + and - sign in there for you ?


Brad

[tinman]

That's classic Brad.  From what I can gather the schematic that he posted did not match his written description from a few posts earlier, creating confusion.

Here is your circuit MH
Make it any easier to understand now?
The MH paradox?

Brad

[poynt99]

But that current flow must still be the same throughout the circuit/loop,regardless of the impedance created by the inductor.

As we have both stated,a voltage cannot be measured at any two points across a shorted ideal inductor. Adding the ideal voltage source to the open inductor,also shorts that inductor,due to the fact that the ideal voltage source also has no internal resistance--the loop is complete ,void of any resistance to current flow,regardless of the value of that current flow.

Brad

As the circuit is prescribed, there is always a voltage measured across the terminals of the inductor, and that voltage precisely follows what the voltage source is set to at any point in time.

[minnie]

   Most of you lot are very like lavatory brushes, clean round the bend!!
   Luckily we've got poynt to point us in the right direction.
   It's really good entertainment though.
         John.