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MH's ideal coil and voltage question

Started by tinman, May 08, 2016, 04:42:41 AM

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Can a voltage exist across an ideal inductor that has a steady DC current flowing through it

yes it can
5 (25%)
no it cannot
11 (55%)
I have no idea
4 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 20

verpies

Quote from: webby1 on May 26, 2016, 01:28:40 AM
You know that you can wrap your ferromagnetic around a straight conductor and move the PM field in line with that conductor and make electricity
Of course.
It works in the other direction, too - threading a wire through a ferrite bead increases its inductance and reactance to high frequencies.  That's how EMI filters are often made.

tinman

Quote from: minnie on May 25, 2016, 12:00:16 PM


   The old tinman's dug himself into such a deep hole I'm
   expecting him to emerge in the U.K.
         John.

Oh there you are John.
I have been waiting for days for one of your idiotic comments.
Do you ever plan on doing something useful on this forum?.


Brad

tinman

Quote from: MileHigh on May 25, 2016, 10:36:31 AM
Brad, you can't even understand what the implications are when you work with the concept of an ideal voltage source.  There is no hope for you.

More words MH--just word's.

Well i have some news for you-->you (and others) have missed/overlooked something regarding your !ideal! voltage source/ideal coil circuit. All to busy looking at what is happening with the coil,and totally missed what is happening with the ideal voltage source ::)

Wonder if your as smart as you say you are MH,and can work out what you missed?.


Brad

MileHigh

My words are true Brad.  The last couple of posts from you have been clown arguments.  I say one thing, and you can't deal with it so your response is about a completely different thing.

There is nothing missed or overlooked regarding the ideal voltage source.  Considering your past statements regarding ideal voltage sources, and considering that you could only answer about 10% of the question, I am not expecting a pearl of wisdom to come forth from you.

verpies

Quote from: webby1 on May 26, 2016, 09:38:32 AM
So the output will be from both values,, the density and the rate in which that density changes,, or moves,, relative to the coil.  I have measured this.
It is very difficult to change the flux density without changing the magnetic flux, but it is possible.  That's why you conflate these two concepts and your experiments seem to confirm this.

If you make a drawing of the flux lines you can count how many of them penetrate the coil.  That count is your flux level.
Flux density is represented by the closeness of these lines.

If you look closely at this video of a superconducting coil (ring), you will notice that the number of flux lines penetrating that ring is constant regardless of the position of the permanent magnet.  It also works in reverse.

In the same video you can observe how the flux lines get closer to each other in some places, despite that the total number of flux lines penetrating the ring does not change.