MH's ideal coil and voltage question

[tinman]

MileHigh

No, I am not full of crap at all.  One of the many ridiculous "problem student in the class" arguments that had to be made with you and others is that an ideal voltage source can do whatever you want it to do.  You had this ridiculous notion that is must be fixed and so that had to be argued out with you.  When you saw others agreeing with me you clammed right up and stopped forcing that nonsensical issue.  Instead of having the guts to say that you realized that you were wrong you just "magically reappeared" on the right side of the argument much later.

The endless stream of garbage you post is unbelievable . We were talking about your question,where the voltages are fixed per time periods given,and the voltage dose !!not!!change within those time periods--regardless of the load. You know full well that this is what was meant by all those referring to your question,and now-still,you try your old !switcheroony! crap to try and make us look like we were wrong. The voltage dose not change over time-->unless you change it,as in your question. Once again-->the voltage will not change over time unless you change it.
You set the voltage at 4 volt's for 3 second's--that voltage will not change if it is an ideal voltage. You set the voltage at 0 volts for two seconds--that voltage will not change over time. You set the voltage to minus/negative 3 volt's-->that voltage will not change over time. You set the voltage to 500mV for 6 seconds-->that voltage will not change over time. You then set the voltage to 0 volts-->that voltage will not change over time.
The voltage dose not change over time-->unless you change it,and once you have done this,it once again will not change,until once again, you change it.
What part of this are you having trouble with?.

Talking tech with you has been a near-endless stream of irrational arguments because of your ignorance.  You hear something new and "make up your own rule" about that new thing and then it's another stupid battle with you to talk some sense into you.  This thread from the very get-go was like that, an endless stream of battling basic electronics vs. the electronics nonsense that you made up in your head.  This was all stuff that you should have been learning on your own starting six years ago, not to mention the six years worth of valuable and correct information that has been covered endless times on this forum that apparently made no impression on you at all and almost none of it sunk in.  Next time hopefully you will do better and not make up nonsense in your head first, but rather you will undertake to do the research yourself and inform and educate yourself properly.

You are no different MH,and you are the pot calling the kettle black.
How much did i have to do to show you that resonant systems exist in and around the ICE before you accepted that they do indeed exist?. And it was not just me that was trying to explain and show you this,but blindly you went on and on about how resonance had nothing to do with the ICE what so ever. Only after i posted proof ,you then come forward and say that the ICE was not your strong point.

You think i know nothing about electromagnetic machines,then take me up on my bloody challenge--show everyone here that you can put all your knowledge to use,and beat the bench hack.
It's all well and good to sit up there on your throne,and belittle people like myself,Mag's,EMJ,wattsup--the list go's on,but when it comes to the crunch,you have nothing--nothing but words that mean just as much in the real world. Your Indoctrination is your downfall,always has been,and always will be.

Surly you can find an old vacuum cleaner motor,or one from an old washing machine--any type of brushed universal motor,floating around some where?--it's not that hard.
The test is very simple--measure P/in,then measure electrical P/out,and mechanical P/out-->thats it,and you can modify the motor how ever you want.

So let's start a thread--lets get the show on the road.
I am offering to send my finished motor to Poynt,where there can be no !so called! fake ass shit going on that he wont find--no hidden wire's,no hidden batteries,no hidden radiant !what ever you like! power of any sort that i have been accused of in the past,by those i thought were friends--non of that bullshit.
You want to know the truth?,would you believe it if it came from Poynt?,well time to put up or shut up,and stop with your 001 basic crap until you can show us that your knowledge is far superior than mine,and there is only one way to find out--you have to build MH.

But i feel this all falls on deaf ears with you ,as you avoided all this in your last post.
You will be the man standing at ground zero,while the rest travel the stars,and you will be saying to your self-->nah,that shit is fake--it's not in the book's.
Those that are here,are not looking for what is in the books that you get to see MH,there looking for the stuff in the books you dont get to see.

Take me up on my challenge MH,instead of this endless garbage you post.


Brad

[MileHigh]

Brad:

Quoting you:

Post #95: If the voltage increases,then it is not an ideal voltage,as an ideal voltage dose not change in time.

Joule Thief 101, post #2434:  Your voltage is ideal-an ideal voltage dose not change in value over time,and when talking ideal inductors,3 seconds is an extremely long time to have a fixed voltage across it of 4 volt's.

Joule Thief 101, post #2655:  An ideal voltage dose not change with time-period. That is what makes it ideal.

Joule Thief 101, post #2657:  An ideal voltage dose not vary in time-regardless of the load it is placed across.

Joule Thief 101, post #2410:  1-An ideal voltage is one that dose not change in selected value.

The voltage dose not change over time-->unless you change it,and once you have done this,it once again will not change,until once again, you change it.
What part of this are you having trouble with?

The part that you were having trouble with is someone saying, "There is an ideal voltage that changes in time by method 'x'."  That blew your mind and caused needless foolishness, nonsense and trouble.

Read this thread from the beginning and look at how difficult you make it, and how crazy and irrational your statements are with respect to electronics.  Get your act together next time.

I am not going to rip apart a bloody vacuum cleaner.  And if you truly think about it, your silly challenge doesn't even make sense.  But that simple exercise in rational thought escapes you, which is no surprise at all.

MileHigh

[tinman]

Brad:


 







MileHigh

1-An ideal voltage is one that dose not change in selected value.Your voltage is ideal-an ideal voltage dose not change in value over time,and when talking ideal inductors,3 seconds is an extremely long time to have a fixed voltage across it of 4 volt's.
An ideal voltage dose not vary in time-regardless of the load it is placed across.

And there you go MH,as plain as day,it can be seen in your own quote's,that i was referring to the stipulated time frames per your question,and the fact that the voltage will not change.regardless of load. It only changes when the user sets it to change-period--so get off my back,as everything i said was correct.-->again MH-1-An ideal voltage is one that dose not change in selected value.
You do see that i clearly said !!selected value!! dont you?.And you do know your question clearly explains the changes in !!selected value!! dont you?

The part that you were having trouble with is someone saying, "There is an ideal voltage that changes in time by method 'x'."  That blew your mind and caused needless foolishness, nonsense and trouble.

The only one that had problems understanding what i said MH,is you--no one else.

Read this thread from the beginning and look at how difficult you make it, and how crazy and irrational your statements are with respect to electronics.  Get your act together next time.

It would be far easier if you took up some refresher courses on english.

I am not going to rip apart a bloody vacuum cleaner.  And if you truly think about it, your silly challenge doesn't even make sense.  But that simple exercise in rational thought escapes you, which is no surprise at all.

What part makes no sense to you MH?(should i ask )
It dose not come much simpler.
Modify the motor to deliver an electrical output as well as a mechanical output--the best your knowledge will allow for.
The input is simply a 12 or 24 volt battery.
P/in=VxI---P/out =VxI + mechanical HP or watts.
How hard is that?. What part do you find irrational ?.
Why will you not take up my challenge?--we all know why.


Brad

[MileHigh]

Brad:

The simple fact is that the whole ruckus over the idea that an ideal voltage source could vary in time started with you refusing to agree that that simple idea was valid.  It was just a stupid waste of time because you seemingly couldn't understand it and/or accept it because of what your search results showed.  And here you are denying this fact because that would mean that you were wrong about something.  It's almost unbelievable.  You saying that I need some refresher courses in English is a joke.  The fact is that you made dozens and dozens of crazy and irrational statements with respect to electronics and most of them where more time wasters because you kept insisting the crazy things you were saying were valid.  Yes, we know why I am not going to open up a bloody vacuum cleaner.  Modifying an electric motor to deliver an "electrical output" is a ridiculous thing to do.  It's no surprise at all that you can't figure out why your challenge doesn't really make sense.

You are one special case Brad.  I can only speculate that your "magic" ability to answer the question and post the proper current trace is because someone took sympathy on you and emailed you the answer.  You were not making any progress at all towards answering the question, you were a blank slate.  You were not showing any indication at all that you were picking up on what was going on, there was nothing.  And then suddenly out of nowhere you had the answer.  If my suspicions are indeed true then you are a fraud.  Look at your one attempt to answer Partzman's question, you mention a phase shift of 90 degrees when phase in this example does not even make sense and does not apply.  You were just blindly throwing something at the answer for the sake of saying something.  If you want to get more out of your hobby then you need to get a good book.

MileHigh

[minnie]

   MH, why not take up the challenge?
   On planet tinman you can make up the rules!
   The books are no use.
   You can have 90 degrees shift when and where you need it.
   This reminds me of AC/DC,they were from Australia, and very
   good they are too!
        John.
   You are not getting your hands on my Fisher and Paykel, I use it
   for laundry and I love it!