MH's ideal coil and voltage question

[MileHigh]

Actually Brad, it just never ends with you.  For Christ's sake, you think that there is a "schematic" for an ideal voltage source.  You've got problems.  You can't understand what an ideal torque would be conceptually or how it would behave in real life, and you are still lost on what the primary and fundamental scientific definition of resonance truly is.  You can't understand that the typical definition for resonance is the layman's definition which is really the !response! of a resonant system to an external stimulation at the resonant frequency.

There is a parallel between you stating that an ideal voltage source couldn't vary in time because you did not see that in the definition for it, and you sticking to the first definition that you see for resonance and not understanding the basic fundamental definition for it.

You couldn't understand that an ideal voltage source could vary in time.  And you still can't understand what resonance truly is because you are blinded by the layman's definition.  I finally found a reference for resonance that does not discuss the !response! of the resonant system and you can't cope with that so you skirt around it.

You are still just as lost as ever Brad.  I really don't care, stay lost as long as you want to be lost.  However, there is a chance if you apply yourself you will get found.

[MileHigh]

without even having the slightest idea as to how your ideal voltage supply is actually constructed

A grand slam!

You are not the tinman, you are the scarecrow that never found Oz.

[tinman]

Actually Brad, it just never ends with you.  For Christ's sake, you think that there is a "schematic" for an ideal voltage source.  You've got problems.  You can't understand what an ideal torque would be conceptually or how it would behave in real life, and you are still lost on what the primary and fundamental scientific definition of resonance truly is.  You can't understand that the typical definition for resonance is the layman's definition which is really the !response! of a resonant system to an external stimulation at the resonant frequency.

There is a parallel between you stating that an ideal voltage source couldn't vary in time because you did not see that in the definition for it, and you sticking to the first definition that you see for resonance and not understanding the basic fundamental definition for it.

You couldn't understand that an ideal voltage source could vary in time.  And you still can't understand what resonance truly is because you are blinded by the layman's definition.  I finally found a reference for resonance that does not discuss the !response! of the resonant system and you can't cope with that so you skirt around it.

You are still just as lost as ever Brad.  I really don't care, stay lost as long as you want to be lost.  However, there is a chance if you apply yourself you will get found.

MH-you are lying again--in everything you say above.

Everything i have posted(and even your own postings)show that you cannot define the difference between an object resonating,and oscillating at it's natural resonant frequency.
I asked you to describe a coil resonating,and one that is just ringing down-->what is the difference?. But you failed to do so,as you know it would show you to be incorrect about your objects resonating all by them self.
You have not provided one example where an object will resonate by it's self,and your bell,and wine glass examples have been proven to be wrong.
This is one fail on your behalf.

Second--i have provided the definition of an ideal torque,where torque is the application of energy to a system or object,and where that energy is ideal-->an ideal torque is an ideal energy source. An ideal torque will maintain it's chosen value,regardless of the opposition force placed upon this torque.
You not understanding this,is also another fail on your behalf.

Third--The alarm bells sound,when one claims to know how a circuit will function,but cannot provide a schematic for such a circuit. The reason you cannot,and will not provide a circuit for the ideal voltage source in question,is because it dose not,and cannot exist.
This means that your circuit needed to answer your question cannot and will never exist,as there is no such thing as an ideal voltage source.

You have not thought about your question,and neither have many others here that think they have answered it correctly.
Your ideal voltage source has no internal series resistance,and thus a current can continue to flow through this ideal source while the voltage value is 0v. At T=5 seconds,a negative voltage is placed across the current that flows through this ideal source. The internal series resistance dose not change in the ideal source at this time,and that resistance value remains at 0 ohms--the reason the current can flow through it unimpeded.
This is the action that takes place in your circuit,but there is no possible way to design such a circuit that can perform this action.
Your answer is based around a circuit that cannot exist--and the proof of this,is by way of you not being able to draw such a circuit for the ideal voltage source.

With people like you at the helm,it is clear as to why man has stalled in his development of energy supplies.


Brad

[tinman]

A grand slam!

You are not the tinman, you are the scarecrow that never found Oz.

I did more than found it MH--i live in it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ4NuX0qWuY

[tinman]

Yes it is a damped oscillation,, but it is at the resonant frequency and it is taking the energy out of the bell amplitude,, not changing its frequency,, ergo resonance.

The external stimuli can take energy or add energy to the amplitude,, but it can not change the frequency.

Yes.it oscillates at it's natural resonant frequency,but the bell dose not resonate.
Resonance is achieved when maximum amplitude is reached by the oscillating body--the same applies to inductors in a resonant circuit.
MH knows this,but as he wishes to cling to falsehoods associated to his wine glass,and now!ringing bell!,he will continue on with his rubbish.


Brad