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regenerative acceleration

Started by life is illusion, July 01, 2016, 07:31:51 PM

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life is illusion

Hello everyone  :)
I'm not so active in this page, so I am not sure if such a generator has been built and if there are discussions about these types of generators.
As you can see in the video, I have been able to gain RPM under load, but unlike Thane Heins's method, this generator can produce the regenerative acceleration effect at almost any RPM with any coil inductance. I got the idea from JLN labs, so all the credits go to the admin of that page.

This method works by leaving some distance between the magnets and tip of the solenoid. This gives me the idea that if we use smaller rotors in for instance, permanent magnet generators of wind or hydro generators, we could very simply go around Lenz's law. From what I have seen in my experiences, about 5-10mm distance will do the trick. Meaning that the rotor of generator should be replaced by a second rotor which has 10-20mm smaller diameter than the main rotor. I have not tested this idea, so I am not sure at all. I do have different size brushless motors and if I find the time, I will install the rotor of a smaller motor into a bigger motor and test this idea. I will not bother about arguing this topic with certain known individuals in this page, but if you have constructive opinions, I will be glad to hear about it. I hope you enjoy the vid ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCFak6CYzIQ

gotoluc

I would like to help you save time and resources by offering you the two videos I made (below) which demonstrate what cause the effect you are observing.

Basically the steel nuts and bolts you are using is the worst kind of generator core material you can use. They cause Eddy currents and have much Hysteresis which holds magnetic flux in the core.
In this scenario when such a generator coil is placed under load or is shorted it will help demagnetize the core which reduces the Hysteresis effect which in turn reduces the strain on the motor turning the rotor.
However, there is no free lunch here as your motor is using more power then it should to turn the magnet rotor with steel bolts as cores. Try replacing your bolt with a Ferrite core which has low Hysteresis and the effect will be gone and your input power will be much less and your output power may be more as I demonstrate in my second video.

Just trying to help since I've got years of testing this.

Luc

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr3x0xTqM_k

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYGM4UlnqTM

life is illusion

Hi Luc,
Thanks for taking your time and commenting, I really appreciate it :)
I'm probably gonna sound ignorant and I hope you forgive me for that, cuz I'm just trying to learn.
As it is possible to see in my video, I'm turning on a incandescent 12v light bulb. Its a pure resistive load and as you mentioned in your video, it shows real power is being used. I'm sure the light bulb was not getting 12v, but it was not getting millivolts either like the results shown in your video. The rotor speeds up even when only the light bulb is used and all other coils were left open. By closing the other two coils, the rpm increased even more.
Also lets keep in mind that each core of coil in this configuration will not only attract the magnets towards itself, it will actually push it away. This means the core drag is not present anymore. I think what we should notice is the fact that I have only 3 coils in this generator. By increasing the number of coils, lets say to 12, we will get to turn on 12 incandescent light bulbs while each bulb will cause the rotor to spin faster, which will translate to less power being consumed by the prime mover.

My points are:
_ No generator has one or 3 coils, they usually have more poles than that.
_ The 12v ligh bulb turn on, causes the RPM to increase and drops the power consumption of prime mover.

So bigger rotating wheel, more cores and coils and more resistive loads will give us what we are searching for: More out than what we put in :)

Best Regards
Sam

gotoluc

I edited my post above as I forgot to write: "when such a generator coil is placed under load or is shorted"  it will cause the effect you are observing.

Originally I had the same thoughts as you. More coils more power out but the reality is, the more bolt core coils you add the more power you will needed to input to the motor to keep the magnet rotor turning. It's a loosing battle as the generators output power will never exceed the input power if you are using bolt core generator coils.
If you measure the power that appears to be deliver for free, you will find it is less then the power it takes from the input to introduce that bolt coil.

You can reverse test this by removing one bolt coil of your 3 coils at a time by connecting an amp meter between one of your motor wires and you will see the motor will use less and less amps as you remove the bolt coils.

Wishing you all the best

Luc

life is illusion

The reason that RPM increases is that the cores start pushing the magnets away, this means the core drag decreases, at least I think so :)