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My Theory! I can't find why it wouldn't work! Big suprize!

Started by nwman, November 13, 2006, 12:55:07 AM

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FreeEnergy

Quote from: Dingus Mungus on November 15, 2006, 05:50:44 AM
Now you just have to find a way to lift the weights...

lol that's what he's been trying to explaine.

MeggerMan

Hi Nwman,
I think there are a few problems with your calculations (the torque for a given weight will be different at each position).

But put it this way, you lift a weight and use up 1 unit of energy, you drop it and expend 1 unit of energy.
You can attach it to a wheel, balance it on your head, even put a dress on it but you will not get it to do any work for you.

What you could do is replace the weights with buckets and place the buckets under a stream of water...oh hang on someone has already invented that.

Regards

Rob



nwman


2tiger

Hi all
For calculate the force from each weight after the 12 o?clock (clockwise) you have to consider the angles of each position the weights are placed.
Use this formula:   Fh = Fweight*cos alpha (angle of the spoke vertical through the center of your wheel)

Where Fh is the force that is "absorbed" by the spoke, that sustain the weight and though it?s lost.
Substract now Fh from Fweight. And this amount of Nm is that you can work with.

Calculate this for all weights considering that you have a counter force from the weight on the other side.

You will see that in sum it will be less than you calculated before.

Sorry for this bad explanation, but I hope you understand what I mean.

Kr
2Tiger
 

allcanadian

@kingrs
I don't think you getting this- In the picture i have posted could you show me where any weights are lifted 1m? The weight at the top moves horizontally along the blue line, outwards not up, in reality it falls slightly.As well the bottom weight moves horizontally along the blue line with no lifting, So at this point all your calculations seem irrelavent. In fact the only problem this wheel has  is when the weights move in or out, centripital forces. The analogy here is a figure skater spinning-she moves her arms in, speed of rotation increases- she moves her arm out, speed of rotation decreases. But as the top weight moves out, the bottom weight moves in, so forces cancel, but the weights must move along the blue line therefore accelerate along the blue line, this acceleration is opposite to the wheel rotation and therefore slows the rotor.
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