The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

[Zephir]

@Jed Which circuit are you talking about (diagram)? Where the probes have been attached to it?

[TinselKoala]

It was you, who said, that overunity is impossible. My person is completely irrelevant for this claim. The problem with you is, you're disrupting the topic of this forum with such an attitude.

I've been a member of this forum for many years and have survived all attempts from people like you to PROVE ME WRONG. The problem with YOU is that you are making false claims and false statements that will mislead people into wasting their time, money and creative juices on dead-end schemes that will never work.

Please post a link to where I have said that "overunity is impossible". You can't do it, because that is another of your false claims. I have certainly said that particular ideas will never result in overunity, and nobody has been able to prove me wrong about that. But we are here discussing YOUR claim, and the claim of others, that current reverses when a coil is disconnected from power.

I'm still waiting for your answer to my little schematic puzzle. How can the LED be flashing if the current reverses, as you have claimed? Do you think I've faked that demonstration? Where is your own demonstration that refutes me? Nowhere, that is where, because you cannot refute real facts.

Actually, it is YOU who are disrupting this forum with your demonstrably false claims and your refusal to learn, along with your refusal to perform and show experiments of your own in support of your claims.

[TinselKoala]

Resonance is classical physics phenomena and it doesn't explain overunity (being itself based on energy conservation laws). In general, if you can derive something with using of classical physics models and laws (which disallow overunity), then you can be also sure, it's irrelevant to overunity mechanism. The reason why the resonance is still significant for many overunity circuits  is, it minimizes the impedance of circuit and thus loses of energy in it.  Many overunity effects are depending on amplitude of oscillations, which gets maximized in resonance frequency.

Once again you refer to "overunity circuits" and "overunity effects". But those circuits and effects do not exist. You cannot demonstrate a single Joule of overunity yourself, nor can you point to _genuine_ demonstrations of others that do. The closest anyone can come is to show scope traces like Partzman's, which are still unverified by testing with other methodology.  Go ahead and PROVE ME WRONG with demonstrations and experiments of your own. You cannot.

[MileHigh]

Thanks Guys. One more question please.
You said that when switch opens, current continues moving the same direction across the coil and lights the led. Then wouldn't our secondary show a negative value and then a more negative peak? I am referring to the yellow waveform of mine which is the secondary's voltage output. Obviously that is not happening. Why is that?

For me personally if you want an answer you have to post your schematic, and show where your test probes are, both for the ground leads and the signal leads.  If there is a transformer, then you must indicate the dot convention of the transformer.  Finally, there is obviously a pulse train that is driving your gate input.  You need to include a capture of that pulse train signal along with one of the other two waveforms from your other scope capture so that I can see what the relative timing is like for the pulse train.

You have to understand the mental stress involved in looking at a scope capture and having to envision and reconstruct what you think the circuit might be in your head.  Even a simple circuit can be stressful with multiple unknowns.  That is in contrast to the relative ease in looking at scope captures and comparing them to a clear and properly annotated schematic.  Then you can focus your mind on answering your question, and not on building an imaginary circuit in your head that might be correct or might be incorrect so that it fits what you see in the scope capture.  I am not going to reverse-engineer an unknown circuit in my head to make it fit your scope capture.

Sorry, no proper documentation, no answer.

[Zephir]

Once again you refer to "overunity circuits" and "overunity effects". But those circuits and effects do not exist. You cannot demonstrate a single Joule of overunity yourself, nor can you point to _genuine_ demonstrations of others that do. The closest anyone can come is to show scope traces like Partzman's, which are still unverified by testing with other methodology.  Go ahead and PROVE ME WRONG with demonstrations and experiments of your own. You cannot.

This is common strategy and propaganda tactics of all overunity deniers and trolls. The cold fusion and antigravity findings are dismissed with exactly the same strategy for whole century already. BTW Show me, that electron exist with demonstrations and experiments of your own. You cannot.

I've been a member of this forum for many years and have survived all attempts from people like you to PROVE ME WRONG.

This is suspicious by itself. Prove, that you aren't agent payed with government for spreading of disbelief in overunity.