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The bifilar pancake coil at its resonant frequency

Started by evostars, March 18, 2017, 04:49:26 PM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: Zephir on March 26, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
There exist four types of bifilar wound coils:1.Parallel- wound, series connected;2.Parallel-wound, parallel connected;3.Counter-wound, series connected;4.Counter-wound, parallel connected. For me the bifilar coil is this one : hairpin bifilar. Such a coil would really have self-inductance suppressed.
This is actually bad thing for scalar wave physics and from this reason Tesla did use conical and bi-conical coils.

I wonder if you actually watched that video of mine which you so kindly linked. In that video I show that the hairpin bifilar winding does indeed have "self inductance suppressed", and this is perfectly reasonable when you consider the shape of the magnetic field around a conductor. It is not mysterious at all to anyone who has a grounding in ordinary physics. However that is NOT the Tesla Bifilar winding that we (some of us anyway) have been discussing and that most people who say "bifilar" are talking about. And it is the reason that I always, or nearly always, specify TESLA bifilar windings when I talk about these coils. But I see that even that doesn't succeed in avoiding confusion amongst a certain group of people. I urge you to re-read Tesla's patent 512340. Note that in Tesla's patent, two wires are parallel-wound and connected in series, but with the innermost end of one winding connected to the outermost end of the other winding. This is exactly the way my solenoidal bifilar coil is wound in the meter test I posted earlier, the only difference being that my coil is solenoidal and Tesla's (and those of some of the other experimenters posting here) are flat pancake coils. One huge reason that Tesla was using flat or conical primary coils was to get the outermost windings, or uppermost windings in the case of the conical coils, out of "reach" of the high voltage secondaries so that spark-over between the primary and secondary could not happen. This kind of sparkover is dangerous to personnel and equipment, as the spark is conductive and causes the low-frequency, high current primary to be "shorted" into the EHV, high frequency secondary.  It has nothing to do with "scalar wave physics" at all.

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TinselKoala

Quote from: Zephir on March 27, 2017, 05:31:20 AM
@nelsonrochaa  Hello Mr. Rocha,

my question is, if You would be willing  to sell the circuit scheme and know-how of your "Avesome Resonator" to this community - in solely anticipatory and nonbinding way in this moment? The transfer of know-how would probably involve the construction of few working prototypes for escrow agent(s). We would discuss the legal conditions and similar stuffs in specialized thread dedicated to this subject. I cannot promise, that such transaction would be feasible for both parties - but at least we can attempt for it and to broke the information barrier existing here.

Thank You for Your kind reply in advance

Zephir

Edit: See also Sirius Disclosure anouncement for free energy technologies

Here's my "guesstimation". The circuit appears to be a relatively ordinary "JT" type of blocking oscillator, with pre-charged capacitor(s) that are actually powering the LEDs. Perhaps he is using large-capacity supercaps. The piezo lighter element sends an impulse, through the Neon bulb, to the circuit to "jumpstart" it but it is not running on the relatively small energy imparted by that spark impulse. I think I can actually see the LEDs dimming over the course of the video. Where is the instrumental measurement of LED brightness? Nowhere. Trying to judge LED brightness in a video or even by eye in the lab is very deceptive , but a lightmeter, properly used, will tell the truth about LED brightness and will show the dimming over time as the capacitors discharge.

A big wirewound power resistor? That's a big Red Herring for analyzing this Cargo Cult electronic circuit.

Of course Nelson can always Prove Me Wrong (tm TKLabs) by publishing the actual circuit and allowing others to replicate it and discuss it on this OPEN SOURCE forum. I won't be holding my breath waiting for that to happen though. "Open Source"... what a laugh that is, when people fail to respect that philosophy entirely.

TinselKoala

Quote from: Zephir on March 27, 2017, 07:11:15 AM
Not just this - it should demonstrate his device inside some Faraday/mesh cage.

If Nelson wanted to fool you with fakery, by perhaps using a wireless power transmitter concealed nearby his demonstration area, or concealed power sources on the board itself (like hollowed out electrolytic caps with their innards replaced with button cell batteries, Akula-style) don't you think he could do that even if his device was inside a mesh cage? I certainly could.

I don't think he is faking anything. I just think he is misinterpreting, deliberately or otherwise, what his circuits are actually doing.

nelsonrochaa

Quote from: Zephir on March 27, 2017, 05:31:20 AM
@nelsonrochaa  Hello Mr. Rocha,

my question is, if You would be willing  to sell the circuit scheme and know-how of your "Avesome Resonator" to this community - in solely anticipatory and nonbinding way in this moment? The transfer of know-how would probably involve the construction of few working prototypes for escrow agent(s). We would discuss the legal conditions and similar stuffs in specialized thread dedicated to this subject. I cannot promise, that such transaction would be feasible for both parties - but at least we can attempt for it and to broke the information barrier existing here.

Thank You for Your kind reply in advance

Zephir

Edit: See also Sirius Disclosure anouncement for free energy technologies

Zephir ,

I already answer in the topic "solid state devices / Re: FE Device by 'Armored Train" that circuit is only a more efficient way to discharge a capacitor , go to that topic and read please , i answer to TK  in the context of that topic .
That circuit even not nice was made in 2014 with the parts that i able to salvage from garbage.

Again i will tell you that i don't sell anything to anyone , or even promote something to win money by viewers .
In this moment money is not my high problem , because i have my own salary .

I already reject several offers of money  by some members from this forum and until i have contract with my actual Patronage, i will continue do that .  I respect agreements, and my integrity as a person is worth more than money.
I already explain in PM to you , that in some days i have a Demonstration to a possible investor in Hamburg , and in that way is easy understand why i'm not available at moment to share any of my work in detail .

Hope i have clear once and for all about that subject , and we should not even be discussing this topic in this topic, right?

Cheers

Nelson Rocha



AlienGrey

Quote from: TinselKoala on March 27, 2017, 07:56:50 AM
If Nelson wanted to fool you with fakery, by perhaps using a wireless power transmitter concealed nearby his demonstration area, or concealed power sources on the board itself (like hollowed out electrolytic caps with their innards replaced with button cell batteries, Akula-style) don't you think he could do that even if his device was inside a mesh cage? I certainly could.

I don't think he is faking anything. I just think he is misinterpreting, deliberately or otherwise, what his circuits are actually doing.
Perhaps, so as a matter of interest where did Roma (Akula) hide his car battery then, it must have been in another dimension then? Aren't we constantly being bombarded with plasma streams and charged particles from the Sun ? there is also the deception from corporate 'quackery' trying to halt the 'free' independence thing ect. which result in pressure on those in the 'know how to' area to 'doctor saboteur' this know how information. ;)