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Overunity Machines Forum



Mervace Working Magnetic motor using induction feedback

Started by Jdo300, November 20, 2006, 01:26:19 AM

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Dingus Mungus

I still don't believe the red overhead cylinder is a "brake magnet". Think about it, the horseshoe magnet pulls it over the pendulum assisting arm and then the ball is closer to the horseshoe then the cylinder yet it is attacted to the cylinder still, Then once reaching the cylinder that just pulled it away from a larger magnet some how the ball magicly avoids any sticky zone. That can only be accomplished by a semi variable field like what is achived with self charging dry pile or high voltage cell. If you can explain how the ball is not stopped or picked up by the "brake magnet", I would love to hear your theory.

Omnibus

@Dingus Mingus,

The sticky spot is overcome by removing the attracting horse-shoe magnet just at the right moment by a clever construction with pendulums. That is how the sticky spot is overcome in SMOT but instead of the ball dropping from the ramp here the magnet is moved away from the ball. Unfortunately, it causes the ball to accelerate which gets it off the track. This  acceleration is prevented by placing the small magnets above the track at the right places after the horse-shoe magnets.

Dingus Mungus

So then your hypothysis is that the arms that move the stator magnets on the ring accelerate the ball. The ammount of energy that is attracting the ball is used moving the magnet out of alignment. think of it like pulling a magnet off of a fridge, the magnet is attracted to the metal and it takes energy to pull it away. Trust me many inventors have tried moving a magnet with an arm to create energy. I have though about this device for a long time and have found no evidence that its the horse shoe magnets accomplishing the observed effects.

Omnibus

No, the attraction by the horse-shoe magnets accelerates the ball. There is, however, also another factor ? the gravitational field. Two fields are at play here ? magnetic and gravitational ? just as in SMOT. In Finsrud?s device the gravitational field is cleverly involved through the three outside pendulums. As I said, it is like three inverted SMOTs, at that in a closed loop.

Merv

Hello omnibus,
  Looking at your google video has  shown we are looking at a very clever and indeed mostly,  mechanical movement,  certainly as near to perfection as anyone has got yet.. There is so much movement here and plenty of synchronizing as the ball turns  that the device will always run in harmony .  It is not clear if the rails or even one rail are gently oscillating so that the ball is always falling  ( panning for gold 200yrs ago has produced little balls which move in a circle by this method)  If that is giving the ball motion   and surely the horse shoe magnets in sync could make that happen Mr Finsrud did say the magnets act like springs. Not a scientific answer . However the gentleman was just talking to your average member of the public at the time.. .  The over head magnets are the speed governers  in the system.  And there are beautiful feedback loops in the entire design The click sounds too loud for a slight imperfection on the track. A perfect machine but its creator has not got the time to fix it with a little piece of sandpaper?? (clockwork release of stored energy in that central spring)  if that?s too simple what about a RAIL GUN effect. Or surly there are electro magnet forces which could add energy to the swinging pendulums. A few well placed solenoids near the Base of the device could achieve this. There are so many other magnetic fields produced by the amount of movement in the mech that the addition of a few man made shots in the arm might not be detected.  Surley any graphs produced by scientific tests on the fields surrounding the device  would produce such  perfect rhythmic harmony ,they would be a thing of beauty in them selves and should be available to view. When things look too good to be true they usually are . Mr Finsrud?s device is alluring to look upon. I might not even want to know its secrets now. It is still art imitating science or perhaps having a giggle at it .The real answer to where the driving force of this sculpture could be so obvious we just can?t see it. Please reply Omnibus  with my question about the rail been in motion. Thanks
Regards Merv.