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THE RANT ROOM

Started by ramset, April 25, 2017, 04:30:05 AM

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rakarskiy

Quote from: stivep on August 07, 2023, 12:05:32 PM
You are right  Magnetic field cannot be accumulated, only induced, excited.-if we use word "accumulated"  in broad sense:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field

So what the energy  in Holcomb  comes from?
Please specify it step by step so we are on the same page.
Wesley

In my Russian-language post on Holcomb's system, I gave what I think is a very lucid explanation:
https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/05/holcomb-system-free-energy.html

QuoteRobert Holcomb's solid state synchronous machine, works according to the algorithm of a traditional electromechanical synchronous power generation machine. A solid-state rotor is a system of electromagnets that replicate the action of a mechanical magnetic rotor. The task is to create a magnetic excitation flux, hold it and move it in the stator and rotor, synchronously to induce EMF in the generator phases. When the load is connected, the excited current force in the phase conductors, amplifies the magnetic field of the magnetic flux system. The magnetic flux [ϕ] has a constant component, both for the conventional electromechanical generator machine and the solid-state Holcomb machine.  The Holcomb machine, like the synchronous generator, is highly dependent on the connected load to produce a working rotating field.

My Explanation: Let's imagine a traditional synchronous mechanical electric generator (for an example that is mounted on a car). From the electromechanics and electrodynamics course, we are told that an electrical mechanical generator is a device that converts mechanical rotational energy into electrical energy.  I strongly disagree with this statement. In the first place, Lawrence's force can be explained with great tension only to an open conductor that moves in a magnetic field, or vice versa.  In an automobile alternator, the wire is placed in a slot in the magnetic core. The movement of the field in the magnetic core, is explained by the change in magnetic saturation of the core, when the poles of the dipole rotate in the body of the core. Designers and physicists explain it by the EMF in such a generator, by the appearance of a vortex electric field around the conductor (electromotive force EMF), when the magnetic field parameter changes in time. In the case of stationary conductors, the induction EMF is a consequence of the action on the free charges of the vortex electric field, arising when the magnetic field changes. The concept of vortex electric field was introduced into physics by the great English physicist J. Maxwell in 1861.
Now let us present the construction of a generator, a stator with grooves in which the generator three-phase winding for a twelve-pole magnetic rotor (six pairs of poles) has been stacked. The rotor is an electromagnet, made on an axis, with two pole pancakes with branches, which form six poles of one pole each. These branchings are bent towards the middle of the coil on the axle, so as to form twelve (6X6) electromagnetic poles. Rotation of the axis forms the rotation of these poles relative to the stator.  The magnetic field in the poles of the rotor, is a consequence of the electromagnet, which has its own electrical power consumption.  The on-board mains voltage is 12 Volts, the maximum excitation current is 5 Amperes. The maximum excitation power is 12V *5A = 72 watts.  To create the peak value of magnetic induction in the stator, it is necessary to consume the excitation power of the electromagnet equal to 72 W, compared to the maximum output power of the electric generator 1.5 kW. The question arises, whence such a result.  The answer can be found in the physics textbook NAMAGNICHIVANIATION OF STEEL. Rotor rotation on the shaft, from an external mechanical driving force, provides "rotation" of the field or as for the stator core, synchronous change of the magnetic field (magnetic induction) in a particular point. The cause of the generator shaft braking is the magnetic blocking of the electromagnetic attraction of the two electromagnets of the rotor and stator. When the phase circuit is closed in the electrical circuit with the load, a current force is formed in the wires, which in turn forms the electromagnetic force of the "stator electromagnet". Overcoming the electromagnetic forces of attraction rotor/stator and is the electromagnetic torque of the generator. This is the necessary mechanical energy, which is not converted, but forms the variable component of magnetic induction from the rotor electromagnet by rotating it in the generator stator. As we see, we have not found any signs of transformation of mechanical energy into electrical energy. We can conditionally disregard it for direct conversion of input electric power of excitation Pg, to the output power of generator phases Pg. Again conditionally we can determine the conversion efficiency:
                                        Efficiency = Pg / Pr = 1.5 kW / 0.075 kW = 20.0 (2000%)
Mechanical rotation of magnetic poles in the stator, and if we make a device where the field movement will be simulated by switching on and off electromagnets by a special algorithm.  Suppose we increase the cost part for excitation up to 200 W (0.2 kW), in any case the efficiency will be = Pg / Pr = 1.5 kW / 0.2 kW = 7.5 (750%).


https://youtu.be/CDA8jMF3s5Y

Transformer and generator are completely different in principle of operation of devices. Any generator in converting excitation, to output power overunity. It is just difficult for physicists to recognize this fact.

stivep

Energy at the input will  always be greater than at the output of the device.
_______________________________________
All that  is said in your explanation  should make you automatically  Noble prize nominee
for discovering overunity for the first time in the history of this planet of 4.54 billion years
- not today but long time ago.
Albert Einstein would look  small and almost invisible from that point.
and yes..No need to fight for it.
:)


So why you are not the one?
Why you will never be one?
Please correct me if you think I understood you  improperly?
Wesley

rakarskiy

Wesley, I'm not interested in physicists and their feeding tube. I'm only interested in the truth. Holcomb is the one who did, but he couldn't explain it. If his device works, there's no other way. And the fact that the Lorentz force can't stand up to any criticism, physicists have been debating it for a long time. It is necessary to see how the calculation of the phase of the synchronous generator, this calculation in the same way pisses off physicists, they call it engineering. And the transformer EMF formula is also engineering, because it does not fit with their concept of magnetic lines crossing a conductor.

stivep

Quote from: rakarskiy on August 07, 2023, 12:51:01 PM
If his device works, there's no other way.

Rakarskiy with no irony, you know that  I  have a lot respect to you personally as well as to Ukraine and its history.
So make it..
Become the  wealthiest person on the earth or the most known one.
if it works, but if it not than.. what?

I was dealing with talented people  for long.
Extraordinary claims require  extraordinary proof.
And till today nor you nor Holcomb  can provide it.

But  in my  personal opinion   you are on the top - only fallowing wrong, totally wrong , or possibly not proven yet direction.
Wesley

bistander

Quote from: rakarskiy on August 07, 2023, 12:51:01 PM
... the fact that the Lorentz force can't stand up to any criticism, ...

I believe it stands any criticism put to it. It works for me and works for thousands of engineers designing motors and generators, exactly and precisely, for the past several centuries. I think Lorentz Force Law is well proven.
bi

ps. BTW. You said:  "excitation power is 12V *5A = 72"

12 * 5 = 60.