Bifilar coils and the usage of such.

[jbignes5]

 While discussing the pancake version of the bifilar coil on youtube with Tinman and RWG research I made key points about this device. Here they are.

"There is no power transfer in this design. It is not a transformer due to the single path through the device. It is a single wire wrapped in such a way that restricts self induction to let high speed impulses pass as if there was nothing surrounding that single wire. Any voltage gain must then be from acceleration of the current through the device. Same amount of current but gains in voltage only due to this speed increase of the charges through the device. Tesla himself stated this in the patent. Are you arguing that science is wrong then with particle accelerators? <-Same concept. When the device is used properly with impulses and nothing else it shines. When used with AC it does not work as described. So all your testing with AC is nerfed. Is this by the testers design? I think so. To what end?

Listen I can show just about anything if I wanted to. Exploring this coil while using Tesla's methods is a must. Exploring the coil with your methods will net NOTHING. It would be like exploring a resistor without using current. Ahhh... Thats it. How does a resistor work with no current to resist, just voltage?

It is very clear that Tesla was looking for alternate ways to utilize coils without the dampening effects. Again "The effects of self-induction, above referred to, are known to be *********neutralized******** by proportioning to a proper degree the ***capacity*** of the circuit with relation to the self-induction and frequency of the currents. This has been accomplished heretofore by the use of condensers constructed and applied as separate instruments." If you are going to ignore direct quotes from the person experimenting with said device then you might as well hang your experimenter cap up and stop all together.

Tesla has left key information as to what his experiments were and the results of those experiments mean. Mostly everything else in the patent is a cover to get the patent and get this into the public eyes. Unfortunately Tesla had to resort to this tactic because his attempts to submit the patents would have been denied, just like it is today.

Again exploring a patent by him without knowing his total back ground and experiments is like trying to explain other electrical patents without knowing basic electrical theory from which they were designed. I have never stated this is a magical device. What I did state is that it is being tested outside of the scope for which it was designed. Weather or not it is OU remains to be seen and remains to be tested as such. But might I ask, what about other devices made from this coil? Do they show OU effects. Well sort of.

Self induction acts like a choke to current and a boon to the voltage potential. Capacitors shine with voltage only. There is no current in a capacitor. If there is then the cap is destroyed by current understandings. Some people mention power factor as an object of this coil. Really so is there a power factor when DC is used or impulses? Power factor is an AC phenomena. "In AC systems power factor is defined as the phase leading or lagging relation between Current and voltage waveform. Since in DC systems, there is no waveform for voltage, it is not possible to define a leading or lagging angle of any value. Thus power factor is just not applicable, it can't have a value." Again testing this coil with AC will be fruitless. AC currents are powered all through the sine wave. Impulsed currents are instantly power on and then powered off. There is no power in the intermittent periods between power on and off. In my strongest opinion this allows the environment to be sucked into the device in the off periods. This fills the capacitance in this device from the environmental electrical potentials via the north and south poles that form above and below the plane of the coil. Lets move to describing the electrical environment for which this device will pump energy into the system.

Not only is there a magnetic field associated with this device there is a purely electrical field as well. Just like in any experiment done by Tesla, plasma is attracted or condensed from around the environment and concentrates around the device. It is after all attracted to the higher voltage potential of a solenoid coil. Well one side of that coil is responsible for that high potential due to self induction. What happens when you introduce the bifilar method is to short out the self induction due to the capacitive nature of the parallel path of the bifilar and subsequent serial connection. One end of that coil pulls electrically on  the other, aiding the speed of the current propagating through the coil and gaining potential in the process. The voltage gain in these coils is done through another method besides self induction. This must mean that it gains it's voltage via another method as I described. Once this device starts gaining potential it will then attract free plasma (which is highly voltage sensitive) from all around the device. This imparts a better environment for magnetic and electric fields. It makes it stronger in effect. Now how do I know that the environment is plasma rich? Well look at the field around a Lodge coil (not a Tesla coil), you know the one Sir Oliver Lodge created and was different then Tesla's coils. The field is enhanced around the coil and will conduct high voltages better. Much like doubling the conductive capability of a current carrying wire. The display on the end of the coil has the highest potential which condenses the plasma from the environment to such a degree that it illuminates the condensed pathways. Tesla was so enamored with sparks for a reason. He knew there was a conductor of space that allowed high voltages to transmit effortlessly through space. He knew he could vary the density of a given space of plasma by introducing the Higher voltages he was used to working with. His tower was a transmitter of this density. This coil was most likely used before his disruptive discharge circuit as an accelerator for his impulses of the density of plasma around his device. Much like when you throw a pebble into a calm pond the density wave changes through space. To pick out the energy present at any place from the initial wave origin one must know there is a vacuum of plasma in the Earth due to the high matter to plasma ratio. The only thing you need to do is put up an antenna with a wave matching circuit to the ground where plasma wants to be, to be even and balanced across space. Since matter displaces this plasma, it creates a vacuum to the plasma once the plasma has attained the potential level of the ground or lack thereof.

This plasma is from our Sun and the guiding factor is the potential value of it and the matter it is squeezed between. It naturally seeks an imbalance which presents itself as a vacuum type effect. Also Double layering effects are known that cause a skin type effect with point sourced potentials like in our core. Our Sun is the focal point of our solar body. The matter present creates a pressure or reversed a vacuum to the balance seeking plasma. I know this is getting long winded but if you don't know how induction is created then how can you optimize the process to gain in energy? At that point you might as well stop looking. Induction is the clue. This device takes advantage of certain inductive laws. Certain laws governed by the density of the plasma in and around the device. In order to use this coil effectively it seems apparent that it must be in an oil bath to increase the capacitance. I say this because the coating on the wires dictates the capacitance between the opposite polarities present in this device's wires. The gauge of the wires also dictates the capabilities of this coil as well. With Tesla's disruptive discharge circuit the thickness of the wire was dictated by the potential level hitting the matter of the wires. Smaller gauge wire would explode like the finest dynamite of the day so the gauge of these coils must be strictly controlled to this non investigated avenue.

These coils might show propulsive effects when applying impulsed trains or packets of impulses to fill the capacity in the coil. Like step charging or the Stanley Meyers take on it. A way to use this coil for magnetic generation Would be on each side of the coil's plane with ferrous re-gauging channels outside of the coils plane. This is due to the 90 degree laws governing electric and magnetic fields. This would help to focus the magnetic field better the further away it is from the plane of the coil. 90 degrees out of phase from that plane as well. Looping the tail ends of the focused magnetic channels might increase the output as well. Would a magnetic tap on that loop work for a power tap? I guess we will find out."

[jbignes5]

 Part 2:

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I have since gone back through the myriad of patents and have found the information about the use of this bifilar method.

"I employ a generator, preferably, of very high tension and capable of yielding either direct or alternating currents. This generator I connect up with a condenser or ***conductor of some capacity**** and discharge the accumulated electrical energy disruptively through an air-space***(spark gap)**** or otherwise into a working circuit containing translating devices and, when required, condensers. These discharges may be of the same direction or alternating and intermittent, ***succeeding each other**** more or less rapidly or oscillating to and fro with extreme rapidity. In the working circuit, *******by reason of the condenser action, the current impulses or discharges of high tension and small volume are converted into currents of lower tension and *GREATER  volume*******. The production and application of a current of such rapid oscillations or alternations (the number may be many millions per second) secures, among others, the following exceptional advantages:

  First, the capacity of the condensers for a given output is much diminished;
second, the efficiency of the condensers is increased and the tendency to become heated reduced,
and, third, the range of conversion is enlarged. I have thus succeeded in producing a system or method of conversion ***radically different*** from what has been done heretofore—

First, with respect to the number of impulses, alternations, or oscillations of current per unit of time, and, second, with respect to the manner in which the impulses are obtained. To express this result, I define the working current as one of an excessively small period or of an excessively large number of impulses or alternation or oscillations per unit of time, by which I mean not a thousand or even twenty or thirty thousand per second, but many times that number, and one which is made intermittent, alternating, or oscillating of itself without the employment of mechanical devices."

Thank you for helping me to focus back on that. The bifiliar coil is a single conductor with increased capacitance he mentions here and the proper method to utilize it is also given by the man who understood it better then all of us. The bifilar coil is an intermittent capacitor serial conductor. It is solely designed to work as such. Even though you can use pulses or oscillations it's primary converter function is impulse based. This is eluded to by the frequency of the division of each type of current mentioned by Tesla. Impulse, pulsed and oscillated currents were different to him for a reason. Pulsed and oscillated currents being established by him and a great many others before him. Impulsed currents were of a different character and one which no one really investigated much. Look at how he focuses on the capacitance as being the translator. Impulses collect and charge things including matter which he has shown in the public and quite often in his lectures."

These have been modified to make better sense.

[nelsonrochaa]

Hi jbignes5 ,

Thanks by your thoughts , because seems,  that we have yet people think out the box .
Some of the points you mention are important to people realize, that some of the tests that they made are very far way from what should be do, to reveal some of the goals of this coils .  Indeed maybe people should try uni-polar pulse excitation and observe after the results and compare with the sinusoidal results . 

Thanks by your time and efforts in write that .


Nelson Rocha

[tinman]

jbignes5

How many times have we heard the !you must understand tesla's work! stuff before?--yes,many

Your second post only proves that your first post is incorrect--full of hole's and un-truths.

For example
Quote: "There is no power transfer in this design. It is not a transformer due to the single path through the device

That is incorrect.
There is two paths-not just one,and if there were no power transfer,what went in,would not come out.
EX2-Quote: It is a single wire wrapped in such a way that restricts self induction

Again-incorrect--see pic below.
If there is no self induction,how dose the coil self oscillate at it's natural resonant frequency?
The test was done by injecting a 500nS pulse of current.

EX3-Quote: Any voltage gain must then be from acceleration of the current through the device.

Acceleration of current 
The increase of voltage is due to a faster rate of change of the magnetic field in time-nothing more.

Same amount of current but gains in voltage only due to this speed increase of the charges through the device

The charges are accelerated by the magnetic fields change in time.

Quote: - Are you arguing that science is wrong then with particle accelerators

Particles are accelerated by electric fields,and then directed by magnetic fields.
What has this got to do with anything?.

Quote:  When the device is used properly with impulses and nothing else it shines.

So are you going to show us this !shine!,or are you just another talker-another Tesla ex-spurt with nothing to back up there claims?.

Here is a challenge for you,as you know so much about Tesla's work on the BPC.

Post just one device of his,that used the BPC,and lets have a good look at it.

From what i have read on his patents for the BPC,is that it was designed for power factor correction-nothing more.

So now,the onus is on you,to provide just one device where the BPC was used to make that device !!shine!!.

It's all well and good to say i(and others) are doing it wrong,but you(yes you)then have to show us what is right.
So far,i see words.


Brad

[nelsonrochaa]

While a radiator for electromagnetic emission produces its field strength by the effect of changing currents; the radiator for electrostatic emission of the type here to be described produces its field strength by the effect of changing potentials.

the important point that electrostatic waves do not propagate into the medium in the same way as electromagnetic waves. In an electromagnetic transmission system, charge is accelerated in an elevated conductor, an antenna, to launch waves omni-directionally into the air. At a receiver, the electromagnetic waves induce a current in the antenna.
The variations in the current are processed by the detection circuitry to replicate the transmitted information.

In electrostatics, it is not necessary for flux lines to detach from an antenna and close upon themselves to propagate a wave that is received at a distant point. The transmitter, in Tesla's plan, oscillates the earth's charge and the receiver is connected to that same charge reservoir. Signals are not launched, but exist as pressure variations in the earth's oscillating electric field. Because the field already exists at the point of transmission and at the point of reception, the propagation characteristics are different from electromagnetic waves.

In addition to the mode of propagation being different, what travels between the transmitter and receiver is different.

In electromagnetic transmission waves are sent out that are picked up by the receiving antenna. These waves induce a current the antenna.

In an electrostatic system a current passes directly between the transmitter and receiver. This current is the same as that which exists in a capacitor, that is, it is a displacement current.

In a standard inductor-capacitor-resistance circuit, when it is energized and oscillating, it is understood that the current that passes through the conductors is completed through the non-conductor of the capacitor's dielectric through a displacement current.
As charge is changed on one plate of the capacitor, an opposite but equal change in charge is seen on the other plate of the capacitor.

In Tesla's system the transmitter and receiver act as the capacitor plates and what passes between them is a displacement current. Displacement current, today, is seen as something of a virtual current, something different from a "real" or conduction current that flows through a wire.
Tesla, however, understood what is meant by an electrical current in the same sense as Maxwell - that "all charge is the residual effect of the polarization of the dielectric and that "the variations of electric displacement evidently constitute electric currents.
As a Maxwellian, Tesla was correct in describing his transmission system as one using true electric currents. Tesla's wireless electrical energy transmission system differed in all three characteristics he claimed - it was not electromagnetic, it operated through the earth or water, and conveyed electrical energy by a current.
Once Tesla's communication method is better understood as a new branch of electrical science that was started over 100 years ago, it will not only have an impact on terrestrial technology, but will have applications in the future for space communications.


Hope that information could "!!shine!!" some minds

Nelson Rocha