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Overunity Machines Forum



SeeSaw smot ramp

Started by CLaNZeR, November 23, 2006, 10:04:09 AM

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Rapadura

The design I was thinking about is that in the drawing bellow.

The steel ball is inside a closed tube, that is the seesaw itself, so the ball can't move sideways, only can go up and down in the seesaw.  The magnet is suspended, with a wooden counterweight, and can move sideways.

In the design bellow, the magnetic attraction force of the magnet has to be calibrated in order to make it attract the steel ball only with the help of the inclined plane.

Remember all that thing about the interaction of gravity and the "normal force" in the "inclined plane"? Yeah, I remember that in the high school. I did some simulation using Phun software, I achieved to calibrate the attraction force to pull the ball only until it passes the fulcrum, and after that, when the seesaw goes down, the "magnet" can not attract the ball, because it no longer has the help of a inclined plane.

Well, so we can do the first half of the cycle. But we need to do the second half, that is make the ball go up in the inverse direction, back to its initial position.

I think the only way to do that is move the magnet to the opposite side. And I think this movement have to be sideways, a horizontal rotation. I just don't know if the power of the "fall" of the seesaw is enough to, somehow, start a movement of the magnet that will only end when it reaches the opposite side.

I'm thinking of a system that somehow gives a "slap" on the magnet, making it rotate horizontally. The fall of the seesaw have to be used to give the "slap" in the magnet.  Maybe the weight of the seesaw should be important to determine whether the force of the "slap" will be enough to make the magnet rotate to the other side. I don't know...

Rapadura

Using the fall of the seesaw to give a "slap" in the magnet is not a big problem. It's relatively easy, with a "L" shaped piece of plastic.

The questions is: will the strength of the "slap" be enough to make the magnet rotate 180 degrees horizontaly, and reach the opposite side, where it will be able to attract the steel ball back to its initial position?

What factors can determine if the 180 degree rotation of the magnet will be sucessfull? The mass of the seesaw? The perfection  of the bearings in the axis where the magnet and the wooden counterweight are suspended?

Rapadura

Come on people! Use your imagination! There are lots of possible designs of perpetual motion machines using the combination of seesaw and magnets! Just invent yours!

Paul-R

Quote from: Rapadura on April 06, 2010, 07:34:23 AM
The questions is: will the strength of the "slap" be enough to make the magnet rotate 180 degrees horizontaly, and reach the opposite side, where it will be able to attract the steel ball back to its initial position?
What is interesting is that many believe "slaps" or impulses, whether they are electric pulses or hammer blows
to be a way of introducing excess energy inot the sytem. (viz: the Watson Bedini variant, Campbell gravitational
device, Adams motor, water hammer and the John Worrell Keely motor etc).

Rapadura

Don't know if the "excess energy" is being introduced by the slap. Just know for sure that the seesaw will fall to the other side after the ball passes over the fulcrum, and the fall can be harnessed to move the magnet-counterweight system. The doubt is how far the magnet can go.

I expect other people have more ideas using seesaws or the "normal force" on a inclined plane. Maybe magnetic shielding can help somehow.