$25,000 National Geographic Contest - Compressed Air (Ambient Heat) Energy

[madddann]

Hello Tom!

As I understand, the transporting means would be something like a screw drive (or maybe something even better), to push the liquid to the part 4. (I'm not an expert in this field, so sugesstions for transporting means are welcome).
Also I think that first the left half (normal heat pump) has to be run until the cold and hot parts are created and then would be the time to engage the right side. Maybe that way the left side has a time advantage and the hot and cold parts would not be totaly destroyed, but instead the compressor would run more at ease.

OK, this are just my thoughts about the way I understand the patent. Hopefully something good comes out of this.

Also the patent in the bottom (in my previous post) coud be added to this system instead of the expansion valve (roots blower attached to a generator) to gain additional output.

[lancaIV]

Hello lancaIV!

There are some interesting patents to be found at that link, too bad I don't speak german, but by the description the patent you linked to seems to be something like this one - see picture - I made an excerpt from the patent attached...
There I found also another patent about replacing an expansion valve with a roots blower - also attached...
All of this could make an interesting system, I'm interested at the opinions of everyone.
Also, did anyone try to build systems similar to this?

Hope i'm not too much offtopic, just tought to post this, so here it is.

Hello maddann,
you want it -the thermodynamic cycle engine- easier aamd more compact ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?FT=D&date=19970506&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=US&NR=5626459A&KC=A&ND=4#

Mr.Thomas Cosby,Chicago/U.S.A. is now corporal death,R.I.P..
But he delivered me (I called to him in a time before 9/11,+/- 2000) the rights to introduce his concept to the european WIPO-aerea EP,
the comercial rights now temporarely lost( 20 years countdown and/or no patent fee payings),
neither the one reazon nor the other reazon let me hinder to ad-/re-dress the honour -to whom- the laudatio has to be given.
I am only doing "open source"-information management.

http://www.overunity.de/206/freedom-housecar-project/20/wap2/
http://books.google.pt/books/about/Development_of_the_Steam_Engine_and_Resu.html?id=5eWXtgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y
http://www.geocities.ws/cosbytech/
http://www.world-wire.com/news/0401040001.html

Have a good day
                        OCWL
p.s.: "Maximum ambient cycle" another publicated theme by Mr.Thomas Cook
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?FT=D&date=19920428&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=US&NR=5107682A&KC=A&ND=4#

A similar "energy solution re-/researcher" : Barry Lebost
           https://www.google.pt/search?q=barry+lebost+heat&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&ei=9EyhWeqyC8yp8wee17_4CA

[lancaIV]

Hello Tom!

As I understand, the transporting means would be something like a screw drive (or maybe something even better), to push the liquid to the part 4. (I'm not an expert in this field, so sugesstions for transporting means are welcome).
Also I think that first the left half (normal heat pump) has to be run until the cold and hot parts are created and then would be the time to engage the right side. Maybe that way the left side has a time advantage and the hot and cold parts would not be totaly destroyed, but instead the compressor would run more at ease.

OK, this are just my thoughts about the way I understand the patent. Hopefully something good comes out of this.

Also the patent in the bottom (in my previous post) coud be added to this system instead of the expansion valve (roots blower attached to a generator) to gain additional output.

             Term(-inus) Extruder (In-truder)
truder: similar german "trudeln,torkeln"
          Metrometer,Gyroskope

laminar to turbulent stream and vise-versa
                  Gegenstroemungstauscher

a thermodynamic engine in industrial process,
with most pro/cons at-/tested:
https://www.google.pt/search?source=hp&q=schukey+motor&oq=schukey&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0l4.2205.10222.0.12233.9.9.0.0.0.0.267.1517.0j8j1.9.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.9.1504...0i10k1j0i19k1j0i13i30i19k1.pEDjFX0ZKAg

the DELTA-OMEGA MASCHINE

[madddann]

lancaIV, thanks for the links and all.

I also saw this on the german wiki:

"the Schukey motor has received funding from the European union Thermodyna Maschinen und Anlagen GmbH is currently working on the development of standard products"

So the big boys are working on it  .

[antijon]

I think the patent is making use of the excess heat energy of vapor compression cycles to power a turbine. The first circuit is a compressor, heat exchanger as condenser, expansion valve and evaporator as heat exchanger. The second circuit is two heat exchangers, at condenser and evaporator, and a turbine. The second circuit also being filled with a refrigerant.

The compressor makes hot gas which transfers the heat to the second circuit. This heats the fluid of the second circuit to power a turbine. The refrigerant in the first circuit leaves the heat exchanger as a condensed liquid, enters the evaporator and boils, taking on the heat of the vapor in the second circuit. The vapor in the second circuit should condense, and be ready to repeat the cycle.

I think the inventor is making use of the efficiency of vapor compression cycles. Here's a little info about modern heat pumps (air conditioners):

If you used an electric heater (joule heating) of 30,000 btu/hr, that requires 8,792W. And that's 100% efficient, as all electric power is converted directly to heat.

A modern heat pump could produce the same 30,000 btu/hr for roughly 2,160W or less, depending on the efficiency rating.

So consider that a heat pump is providing the heat to power a steam turbine, the turbine turning a generator, and the generator producing more KW than the heat pump requires. I think the feasibility of this system comes from heat energy, as any excess heat picked up by the system only increases power output.