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Skinner 1939 gravity machine centrifugal force tests and hope

Started by norman6538, August 26, 2017, 08:16:20 AM

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sm0ky2

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January 10, 2018, 08:49:42 PM
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

sm0ky2

#21
January 10, 2018, 09:03:47 PM
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

norman6538

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January 11, 2018, 07:57:23 AM
Quote from: sm0ky2 on January 10, 2018, 09:03:47 PM
https://youtu.be/jCOctgVIR6Q


And


https://youtu.be/g4KGjadObaY

David Quirey did a wonderful job on that setup. That gave me the trigger to work on
just what centrifical force would do. I never went back to the Skinner stuff because
there were a couple guys that made very serious replications that did not pan out
so I thought I could probably not add anything more.

Norman

sm0ky2

#23
January 11, 2018, 08:10:59 AM
The thing to take from skinner,
Is that the driving force is the axial tilt.
Not a direct rotational torque.


The rotational force is caused by gravity.


The axial-tilt is caused by the rotary-to-linear (crank) drive
of the small motor.


The tilt is assisted by the rotational precession force.
Change in rotational angle exerts a force on the axis.


David Quirey restricts the axis to 2 dimensions of freedom.
Back and forth.


Skinners machines actually allowed for 360-degrees of freedom of axial-tilt.
Restricted to the elliptical path of the crank.


Quirey shows the resultant "sine wave"  figure 8 pattern.
Skinner, the wobbling-ellipse.


In both cases, the rotating force is gravity, on the mass of the off-set weights.


The linear force, is the tilting of a balanced-mass on a vertical shaft.


These are two entirely different forces, numerically.

I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

norman6538

#24
January 11, 2018, 08:34:21 AM
Thanks sm0ky2 for that excellent description of those forces at play.

I knew the tilting was important but not why.

I'm wondering how this may apply to the Bessler wheel.
He mentioned "constantly falling" and that is what the tilt
seems to do.

Norman
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