Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[nelsonrochaa]

Nelson
I suppose trying to understand
Since no sharing of actual circuits is being done here
resorting to trying to understand...


I also try to understand the world I live in !
walking around are people for 15 years they could change the world ...according to Rick !
Why absolutely not one of them has come forward ever ...all the years I've been associated with OU not one has come forward.... anywhere.


15 years ?? I cannot imagine this it is beyond my frame of reference .


Sorry if I posted that and it upset you ,  this conversation that I'm reading here ...15 years the world ,our home all of our homes.. to say it makes me sick to my stomach to think that for 15 years there are people that could fix this and they make money or they don't share ...to say it makes me nauseous would be an understatement .


Sorry if the tinsels little movie upset you Nelson,I would feel much better about all of this if it was a lie


This  was the problem I had with the other forum.. that B_edi-no used.
How heartless and callous and indifferent to life ..


They also claimed they were trying to help ...help what?help who?


For the first time I just looked at the website of the man posting here $30 worth of parts and pieces for thousands of dollars


Sorry if I upset you Nelson
I hope you fellas sleep well at night, with your secrets  and Rick with his bank account


  Such evil I cannot comprehend
End of story

Hi Ramset , i just ask you the purpose of that video nothing more . seems that you are a little bit down, but it was certainly not my question that made you that way.
You must find another person to regret your problems, because i'm not the right person to carry your personal  laments.
What turns my stomach around is seeing someone worried, and accusing the RF of making money on their site by selling kits and worried about their account . That is a bad thing Ramset not nice.
It seems to me that implicitly it displeases you why ? Is it something I have to say or feel responsible for?  I could understand RF, hardware is not free , and he does not live on air , need make money to survive or not ?
And Yes i sleep well at night.   you don't ? if not, you need find peace in your heart and cease to serve the conveniences of the usual group of people, who feel reserved to evaluate all situations in this forum, and although it could do so, they cannot do so without causing people to be left  this forum due to the usual verbal bullying.
Do you already take time out of your day to think about it?
Definitely yes. So why you don't make something about that ?
What Stephen did , it should have done a long time ago.
it was absurd what was going on, someone had to get their hands on what was happening, and that person was Stefan, because seems not exist moderation persons on the forum. some time ago i need send a msg to Stefan because a lunatic threatened someone else to shoot him with a riffle .  ... This type of things is something i call Radical people, and that is dangerous if not controlled . 
Ramset i don't have secrets , what you call secrets is nothing then a NDA   , but even that you could ask to your trusted judge specialist Tinsel their opinion about my work ,but you already know their opinion  lol  . So... no Secrets to reveal.
If I reveal something good , Can you find a way to get me a 4-channel oscilloscope as some guys received? ... the usual guys  ??



all the best


Nelson Rocha

[ramset]

 Nelson
Yes things keep me up at night ...maybe that's my problem not yours ?
One thing that doesn't keep me up at night is putting my head on the pillow
when I have something which could save someone's life.


  There are people doing things  on the planet that keep me up at night and make me worry for my children and grandchildren

Recently  in America... people do things I cannot comprehend ?
And here in America Rick does something else I absolutely cannot comprehend .


I cannot imagine what that looks like to people that really need this technology ?


And here it plays like a game ?


And you have no problem with any of this ?
Rick makes a business last 15 years ...it's all just business to you ?..it's all good ?..is that what you're saying ?
I am very confused by what you're actually saying?


Also the excuse
I can't believe the things you just wrote ...other people stop this ...?other people needed moderation that's why you didn't share ?
that's why Rick isn't sharing ?


Sorry language barrier must be confusing me ..
Here we're not  exchanging baking recipes  and knitting Secrets ..this is just going in circles
Read the mission statement Stefan wrote .

[ramset]

Nelson
here  the membership has purchased (together through donations) oscilloscopes and equipment
here there are  people in the membership who donate equipment to people who experiment


It is only open source ...and only to people who open source their work
So yes absolutely you can take that to the bank if you're going to open source and you need equipment
just as in the past it will happen again.


There is something very strange in this conversation and I don't know if it's language barrier or something hidden
it needs to be spoken
brutal honesty is the only way forward

[nelsonrochaa]

Nelson
Yes things keep me up at night ...maybe that's my problem not yours ?
One thing that doesn't keep me up at night is putting my head on the pillow
when I have something which could save someone's life.


  There are people doing things  on the planet that keep me up at night and make me worry for my children and grandchildren

Recently  in America... people do things I cannot comprehend ?
And here in America Rick does something else I absolutely cannot comprehend .


I cannot imagine what that looks like to people that really need this technology ?


And here it plays like a game ?


And you have no problem with any of this ?
Rick makes a business last 15 years ...it's all just business to you ?..it's all good ?..is that what you're saying ?
I am very confused by what you're actually saying?


Also the excuse
I can't believe the things you just wrote ...other people stop this ...?other people needed moderation that's why you didn't share ?
that's why Rick isn't sharing ?


Sorry language barrier must be confusing me ..
Here we're not  exchanging baking recipes  and knitting Secrets ..this is just going in circles
Read the mission statement Stefan wrote .

Ramset, beyond the language barrier,we share different ideas and opinions and it seems to me that you are manipulating the words but maybe it will surely just be a misunderstanding  of my mind .
But we won't have much more to discuss either, will we?

Wish all the best


Nelson Rocha

[ramset]

Nelson I actually do believe there's a misunderstanding here
I read too many of your posts that I felt I agreed with


What I'm about to write has nothing to do with you
It's more about a forum that this mindset has come from


Here the man that Rick shares his work from , who's work it actually is ?
I have no idea
This claim predates the Internet .

When I was a boy seeking secrets .... the x-ray vision to look through walls ...or to throw your voice
All things that came in the mail .
waiting to be opened by excited fingers


These things were toys ..scams ..whatever ...no harm ?


But here something drastic has changed ...here it has apparently become all right to watch people starve..to watch animals go extinct ...to watch a planet be destroyed  or damaged , drought ...or consequences of toxic chemicals to try and sustain crop yeilds ? (Reefs disappearing oceans estuaries
Starving for oxygen


Huge deforestation ...undrinkable water.. so many things that could be fixed with Ricks technology !
( indoor stackable hydroponics .. Just one such example .Unfeasible .....except with Ricks technology
  Turning deserts into paradise ...desalinating sea water ,Unfeasible ....except with Ricks technology.


All So Rick and his previous boss could sell us the secrets ??




Something has changed ...the mindset ...if the secrets are true..what does that say about humanity ?
I can sell oxygen or watch a man suffocate for lack of it ?
Where Are all the customers the last 15/20 years that were taught the secrets ? how do they sleep at night?


If this is true ..it's an abomination in my opinion ..a crime against humanity on a global scale which I could never even contemplate ?
And I could never never ever put my head on the pillow at night with such a secret
end of story .


So Nelson
yeah if I'm wrong I apologize ..if you disagree with what I just wrote then you're right
We definitely see things differently


If you need equipment to open source ...don't hesitate to ask the community .


Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
And I truly hope Stefan  will open source this technology !
When his friend shares the video here.