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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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conradelektro

Quote from: a.king21 on April 26, 2019, 01:20:01 PM
I woud be very careful about reprinting something which may or may not be true.  In England recently someone was jailed for 2 years for putting out revenge pornography.  Making posts with no evidence except citing someone else can be both a civil and criminal offence and you won't catch me doing it.
There have also been cases where people have put out fake likes and dislikes being taken to court.  The internet is changing fast and hiding behind handles is no longer accepted or tolerated.
I woud prefer responsible discussions on the technology being described rather than character assassinations.


Nice try! Come up with some evidence instead!


It is a crime to claim impossible things. It is no crime to doubt impossible things. Only spammers and frauds threaten doubters. Real men provide proof.


Greetings, Conrad

itsu

Quote from: benfr on April 24, 2019, 05:27:32 AM
Hello Guys !
Why not take a simple working recipe and build from there ?
Rick Friedrich has shown a great tool of how to produce easy overunity on this video :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kOGVfkoik
how to produce a multiplication of voltage , or amperage, or both.
How is that done and possible ?
Well, I am going to help you build one in a single hour's time below.
What you can also do, to be safely and thoroughly taught by Mr Friedrich, is get his "kit" : the "resonant inductive coupler kit" that comes with a 3 hours video to show you what is OU out of the simplest recipe on earth.

For our friends in any other country in the world, who do not have 100 USD to spend, and who may have a bit of cables , and can spend a few dollars in a few electronic parts, I am going to show you what is shown in the RICK kit, without departing, as said Tesla, from the interest of buying it.
I. You will build 3 coils which are as follows :
- 2,5 centimeter diameter (a plumber plastic should be around this and work even at 3 or 4 centimeter).
- 0.5 mm to 2 mm width for the wire
- 54 to 57 turns.
inductance : around 157 uF.

get 3 "100 pF" capacitors.

II. put all those in series :
x capacitor>coil>capacitor>coil>capacitor>coil y

III. send a SQUARE frequency of 863 KHZ at 11 to 15 volts at x and y points.
the frequency can be approximately deduced from well established formulaes, for instance :
https://goodcalculators.com/resonant-frequency-calculator/

IV. put a 100 V bulb anywhere across several points in this circuit, for instance on x and y .
it lights brigthly : voltage has been mutiplied by a factor of around X7, so a Q=7, so a 700% factor multiplier for voltage.

V. remark : the amperage stays the same.

You may now Thank Rick Friedrich for creating this kit in hommage to Don Smith, which I highly recommend to buy (100 USD).

Key words : Tesla, resonance , Tesla lecture 1893, high frequency, Rick Friedrich, resonance coupling, overunity, voltage multiplication, amperage multiplication.

Benfr,


According to this website (and my experience), the given coil data does not match:
http://hamwaves.com/inductance/en/index.html#input

Quote- 2,5 centimeter diameter (a plumber plastic should be around this and work even at 3 or 4 centimeter).
- 0.5 mm to 2 mm width for the wire
- 54 to 57 turns.
inductance : around 157 uF.


At 0.5mm wire width, the inductance comes at ~49uH
At 2mm wire width, the inductance comes at ~14uH.

So both are way off from your 157uH.

So what is the goal, the 157uH inductance, the number of turns, the length of the coils or?

Further, do we need it to be in resonance?   You did not say, but kind of hinted at it by giving the "resonant frequency calculator" link.
By the way when using that calculator, i get with 157uH and 100pF a resonance frequency of 1270Khz, so what is that about 863Khz SQUARE to tune to?



Anyway, i build your little circuit in a simulator (LTspice) and used the following:
100pf caps
157uH coils
166 Ohm load as bulb
square wave (50% duty cycle) signal 15Vpp (AC).

The signal across the bulb / square wave source looks like the green trace (nice 15Vpp square wave signal).
No way to get a 100V bulb lightning up i think.
See first picture.
Is that circuit the one you had in mind?


I then really build that circuit (coils 163uH / 106 turns / 0.45mm wire) and using 15Vpp square wave 50% duty cycle and a 220V 25W bulb.
Needless to say that the bulb never lighted up.
Below a screenshot of the signal at 863Khz (blue) and at resonance which is 1224Khz in my case (white).

what am i doing wrong? Are you having better results?  Please show.

(The file 3 coils.png is the LTspice sim file,  please rename to 3 coil.asc to use in LTspice)

Itsu

AlienGrey

Itsu, i'm a bit of a novice on this but from what i know doesn't the C value and the L value of 'impedance need to be the same for both items ie Rc and Lc ?  for your selected frequency? Hmm, hows your formula knowledge and maths?


https://ncalculators.com/electronics/reactance-calculator.htm
working out inductive and capacitance reactance impudance  ;D ;D oops meant impedance

I will leave you to it it's good fun (if you have the time to wast). guys don't realize what's involved in this so-called zero point  8) 8) have fun and good luck.

gyulasun

Hi AlienGrey,

You have a little bit unusual approach to bring an L inductance and a C capacitance to resonance. It is ok that at resonance
the L and C will have identical reactance values (which cancel) but you do not need to use such approach.  And no doubt,
you can arrive at your goal by using the reactance calculator and iterate values for matching the two reactances.
Simply you can instead use online LC resonance calculator (that are based on the Thomson formula) which gives the resonant frequency
the moment you punch the L and C value into it.  And then the reactances at the resonant frequencies will surely be equal.

Member benfr included a link to such calculator in his post and here is another one:
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/tools/tank-circuit-resonance-calculator/  Just enter 100 pF and 163 uH (that was Itsu's actual coil inductance
he used) and you get 1247 kHz, pretty close to his scope measurement of 1224 kHz (see his white trace data on the right).  If you read and understand,  the problem Itsu noticed and asked was the coil data (number of turns, coil OD) member
benfr provided does not give 157 uH inductance but much less. This is one main point, ok?

Peace
Gyula



Quote from: AlienGrey on April 26, 2019, 06:07:26 PMItsu, i'm a bit of a novice on this but from what i know doesn't the C value and the L value of 'impedance need to be the same for both items ie Rc and Lc ?  for your selected frequency? Hmm, hows your formula knowledge and maths?


https://ncalculators.com/electronics/reactance-calculator.htm
working out inductive and capacitance reactance impudance  ;D ;D oops meant impedance

I will leave you to it it's good fun (if you have the time to wast). guys don't realize what's involved in this so-called zero point  8) 8) have fun and good luck.

AlienGrey

Quote from: gyulasun on April 26, 2019, 06:57:17 PM
Hi AlienGrey,

You have a little bit unusual approach to bring an L inductance and a C capacitance to resonance. It is ok that at resonance
the L and C will have identical reactance values (which cancel) but you do not need to use such approach.  And no doubt,
you can arrive at your goal by using the reactance calculator and iterate values for matching the two reactances.
Simply you can instead use online LC resonance calculator (that are based on the Thomson formula) which gives the resonant frequency
the moment you punch the L and C value into it.  And then the reactances at the resonant frequencies will surely be equal.

Member benfr included a link to such calculator in his post and here is another one:
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/tools/tank-circuit-resonance-calculator/  Just enter 100 pF and 163 uH (that was Itsu's actual coil inductance
he used) and you get 1247 kHz, pretty close to his scope measurement of 1224 kHz (see his white trace data on the right).  If you read and understand,  the problem Itsu noticed and asked was the coil data (number of turns, coil OD) member
benfr provided does not give 157 uH inductance but much less. This is one main point, ok?

Peace
Gyula
Hi wasn't aware impedance matching was the same as resonant frequency as one can get multiple points of resonance with a coil scope and signal gen, not to wory though.

While your on can i pick your brains on NE555 any idea how i can get a 50/50 waveform out of a 555 without having to keep adjusting it with another pot and a diode or using a D type at double the frequency as I need a span of 30khz to 80 khz ?