Confirmation of OU devices and claims

[itsu]

This is not my thread, it was opened by Tinman some time ago, so i am also a guest here.
But i understand the need to sometimes deviate from the topic at hand to clear up some misunderstandings.
No problems with that Vortex1.


But AG, there should NEVER be a reason to battle each other with animated gifs etc.,   never.



Gyula, 

thanks for the heads up, you are right considering the Spectrum Analyzer measurements i did, kind of
compare apples with pears.

If the harmonics pose a problem here is not clear to me either, but as long as COP > 1 it could be.


Itsu

[seaad]

The harmonics pose only a problem when we are aiming for our first milestone; to reach COP 1 on our "journey" here. (my aim above)
Now present COP is below 0.2
But if we already have COP>2 some "evaporated" harmonics doesn't matter much, of course.

Regards Arne

[gyulasun]

This post is off topic,  sorry for that.

Hi AlienGrey,
I kindly ask you to look into the mirror sometimes, mainly before writing certain messages. Otherwise the Trollmeter swings full scale for you. 

See here for instance what you wrote to Itsu: "Hmm, hows your formula knowledge and maths?"
https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg533756/#msg533756 

And as it turns out from my reply to you, it was you who approached the resonance frequency calculation for an LC circuit from reactance calculations point of view for L and C which is also ok but a side step instead of using the Thomson formula directly. What is more, Itsu has shown his knowledge for years (also in LC circuits) so that you were rather unpolite to him by posing that question.

And when you answered to me, you then asked a totally off topic question, (post #274) which I did answer and you did not even thank the answer.  (But this is no problem for me, not the reason I write this post.)

Here is another strange post from you #302:
https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg533836/#msg533836

"Hi, 3 pages back re Rick F and his fancy 50 dollar 157uhry coils one guy finds a junk RC calculator that ets a 100uf cap to resonate at 1 khz, is that a joke or what ?"

I went 3 pages back but found no posts that included 100 uF cap to resonate at 1 kHz so asked you to give reply number that included it.

As an answer, you highlighted this text from benfr's post #260:
" III. send a SQUARE frequency of 863 KHZ at 11 to 15 volts at x and y points.
the frequency can be approximately deduced from well established formulaes, for instance :
https://goodcalculators.com/resonant-frequency-calculator/ " and you added: you were trying to find out how Itsu got his 90 deg phase shift. Then found that and thought that can't be right. then tried to reverse logic what that Rick F was up to and got really confused. "

Well, there was no 100 uF cap and 1 kHz frequency written in benfr's post.

By the way, it is okay that originally you wanted to figure out from Itsu scope shot (shown in his post 289) why the 90 degree phase shift happened between the voltage waveforms (the answer is the voltage across a cap always leads 90 degree wrt the generator voltage).

No offense intended, and I will continue to answer your posts if I can, if they are stricly technical and relevant to a given topic.

Gyula

[kolbacict]

Your real world testing agrees with my simulations of your setup in LTSpice.

Look, everyone has it...

And I use a little Multisim11.0    is it much worse?

[AlienGrey]

This post is off topic,  sorry for that.

Hi AlienGrey,
I kindly ask you to look into the mirror sometimes, mainly before writing certain messages. Otherwise the Trollmeter swings full scale for you. 
If you look at what the guy is saying he wants to make an argument over my post and asks me for proof with photographs and input and output graphs and all sorts technical jargin, that's when it's Trolling I just don't have the time to wast. that is Trolling in my book.


See here for instance what you wrote to Itsu: "Hmm, hows your formula knowledge and maths?"
https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg533756/#msg533756 

And as it turns out from my reply to you, it was you who approached the resonance frequency calculation for an LC circuit from reactance calculations point of view for L and C which is also ok but a side step instead of using the Thomson formula directly. What is more, Itsu has shown his knowledge for years (also in LC circuits) so that you were rather unpolite to him by posing that question.
Was it, I certainly wasn't aware I had upset Itsu, if I have it was totally unintentional I can assure you and Itsu.

And when you answered to me, you then asked a totally off topic question, (post #274) which I did answer and you did not even thank the answer.  (But this is no problem for me, not the reason I write this post.)
Yes, you did answer thank you, as I was after a quick cheap way of getting a 50/50 square wave which I made up, unfortunately, it did not produce a square wave something more like 40/60 which was of no use, I just didn't have the time as I had to keep searching and testing for an answer. Wich I did in the end of another unlikely user on another thread. Thanks anyway.

Here is another strange post from you #302:
https://overunity.com/17491/confirmation-of-ou-devices-and-claims/msg533836/#msg533836

"Hi, 3 pages back re Rick F and his fancy 50 dollar 157uhry coils one guy finds a junk RC calculator that ets a 100uf cap to resonate at 1 khz, is that a joke or what ?"
Yes I agree, that's it was originally pointed to it and why I queried it.

I went 3 pages back but found no posts that included 100 uF cap to resonate at 1 kHz so asked you to give reply number that included it.

As an answer, you highlighted this text from benfr's post #260:
" III. send a SQUARE frequency of 863 KHZ at 11 to 15 volts at x and y points.
the frequency can be approximately deduced from well-established formulas, for instance :
https://goodcalculators.com/resonant-frequency-calculator/ " and you added: you were trying to find out how Itsu got his 90 deg phase shift. Then found that and thought that can't be right. then tried to reverse logic what that Rick F was up to and got really confused. "

Well, there was no 100 uF cap and 1 kHz frequency written in benfr's post.
Well, thats strange as I can go straight to it with the pointer I gave you on my machine!

By the way, it is okay that originally you wanted to figure out from Itsu scope shot (shown in his post 289) why the 90 degree phase shift happened between the voltage waveforms (the answer is the voltage across a cap always leads 90 degrees wrt the generator voltage).
That only works on caps and resistance if you try it with caps and inductance you won't get the same result and I can't find any equation for such a setup.

No offense intended, and I will continue to answer your posts if I can if they are strictly technical and relevant to a given topic.

Gyula

Thanks Gyula, but isn't this thread suppose to be about, Confirmation of OU devices and claims, therefore I was merely asking originally a question with some humor. Any way likewise and thanks for the input. I will file it in the black filing cabinet with all the other junk 
Regards AG