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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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a.king21

The resonance system is the first one or two stages of the Don Smith system.  If proved then we can be confident of stages  three to five.  Stage three is the 1:4 or 4:1 quarter wave section,   stages 4 and five are the frequency reduction and the final resonant transformer at mains frequency. So it's a complicated process of resonance all the way to the final stages.  But you need a gauss meter to see the energy created.  The initial stage of resonance is the first one Don Smith claims led him to his discoveries. But at last we now have clarity with the Don Smith process which is identical to the Kapanadze process if you take a look at Kapanadze's patent applications. In my opinion it's worth the effort to learn these processes anyway because the ultimate energy comes from the electrons in the earth grounding. Which is exactly what Tesla said.(And Eric Dollard and Rick Friedrich and Don Smith etc etc.) There is no "overunity" it is simply a method of agitating the ambient background using magnetic resonance and seeing the multiplication of magnetic energy by the resonant system. A scope is useless in this field. Then you return the agitated electrons back to the earth ground ready for re-use. So we are not talking Kirchhoff's loop law  here. We are talking about Faraday's laws.In order for the system to work you need a sharp gradient ie a spike wave. Another name is Tesla's impulse technology.


If you can sit through this video the process is explained here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVnAU1FmCsg&list=UUu1hNQsr9YnkIjFkMAc3Npw&index=35


PS You need a GAUSS METER to see the energy or you are electronically blind and see only Kirchhoff's laws using meters and scopes.

AlienGrey

Quote from: a.king21 on June 03, 2019, 09:16:55 PM
The resonance system is the first one or two stages of the Don Smith system.  If proved then we can be confident of stages  three to five.  Stage three is the 1:4 or 4:1 quarter wave section,   stages 4 and five are the frequency reduction and the final resonant transformer at mains frequency. So it's a complicated process of resonance all the way to the final stages.  But you need a gauss meter to see the energy created.  The initial stage of resonance is the first one Don Smith claims led him to his discoveries. But at last we now have clarity with the Don Smith process which is identical to the Kapanadze process if you take a look at Kapanadze's patent applications. In my opinion it's worth the effort to learn these processes anyway because the ultimate energy comes from the electrons in the earth grounding. Which is exactly what Tesla said.(And Eric Dollard and Rick Friedrich and Don Smith etc etc.) There is no "overunity" it is simply a method of agitating the ambient background using magnetic resonance and seeing the multiplication of magnetic energy by the resonant system. A scope is useless in this field. Then you return the agitated electrons back to the earth ground ready for re-use. So we are not talking Kirchhoff's loop law  here. We are talking about Faraday's laws.In order for the system to work you need a sharp gradient ie a spike wave. Another name is Tesla's impulse technology.


If you can sit through this video the process is explained here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVnAU1FmCsg&list=UUu1hNQsr9YnkIjFkMAc3Npw&index=35


PS You need a GAUSS METER to see the energy or you are electronically blind and see only Kirchhoff's laws using meters and scopes.
I entirly agree with you but 'Rick Friedrich' ;D doesn't he go on?

gyulasun

Hi a.king21,

No offense but what you wrote is a fantastic techno hodgepodge... sorry to say. Similar to your earlier mentioning of
"disruptive discharge" for a max 18 Vpp square wave (which drives a resonant LC circuit) or of "Heaviside magnetic output"
or the COP 144 claim.   
The resonance system as the first one or two stages of the "DS system" have failed, it has not been proved to give
"energy multiplication".  Correct measurements by Itsu clearly resulted in underunity while Rick F or benfr clearly claimed
COP > 1 performance for the resonance system.   

Now you come along with measuring Gauss to "see the energy"...   Let's suppose that the "ultimate energy comes from the electrons in the earth grounding"  as you wrote.  Then such excess energy should manifest in driving a useful load, right?   
Why this excess energy is not demonstrated by Rick F or by benfr claiming that?   
To light a NE-2 neon bulb with the help of a resonant system is NOT energy amplification, you can do it for instance with
a step-up auto or normal transformer or with a single transistor oscillator running from 
a less than 1 V battery.  Voltage amplification - yes, energy amplification - no. 
Remember that Nikola Tesla claimed "energy amplification" (but not with these words) only when he used up the energy
from a charged capacitor within very short time, ok?  http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm   

A Gauss meter measures magnetic flux intensity and it is okay that near to a resonant LC circuit it would display much stronger magnetic fields
than a non-resonant current would create in the same coil.  BUT how do you utilize the stronger field? 
The moment you load the resonant system the Q hence the field intensity reduces immediately and here it is totally 
irrelevant whether input energy comes from your signal generator or from earth grounding or even from both.   
Why this part of the story is not  shown correctly  from those claiming 'energy amplification' ? 

Faraday's laws have never been shown to manifest excess energy, you cannot escape with it as you now attempt to
get rid of the Kirchoff's loop law... but in vain. 
Everbody should show correct measurements to prove their claims. 

Gyula

AlienGrey

Gyula an interesting opposition documentation speech.
I hear what your saying and where your coming from and like wise Mr A.king.
Would that be the same Mr A King who made that interesting visit to Lithuania and
made the video of the aquarium driving the electric fire ?

I think you might well find to grab the quantity of energy you are looking for has to be made it's called BEMF,
and resonance and above all the correct protocol.

If you look through Don Smiths video's there is one section where he creates a rapid capacitor
charge that's almost instantaneous at a certain frequency, if you can find it, it might be of interest.


gyulasun

Hi AlienGrey,

Yes I think he would be the same A.King like you guess.

I need to ask what you mean here on BEMF: is it the voltage spike created across a coil when its current is interrupted?  If yes, then it is okay it can be captured and it can be reused again,  though I have not seen from anyone that the this_way_captured energy provided COP > 1 performance when added to the input energy. 

But after you mentioned BEMF you continued with: "and resonance and above all the protocol" and I wonder how you mean resonance here when you grab the quantity of energy created by switching to get the BEMF ?  If this is how you meant, that is.

I would appreciate if someone would point to the video time where Don Smith shows the (almost instantaneous) rapid capacitor charge: I would like to understand how to benefit from it.

Gyula