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Overunity Machines Forum



12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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konduct

Mramos...A SMOT actually seems to work better backwards.  I built a rotary 12 inch smot with sticky spots at 180 degrees from each other and the motor had more torque backwards than forwards.  Each magnet got about 1/8th of an inch farther away from each other.  You can go right past a sticky spot if you are going backwards!  The problem you now have is the "original" smot direction causing drag.  You get more energy in a backwards smot at the beginning as opposed to the end, due to the quick difference in field strength.  Trust me, I will put a video up if needed.  

Folks, I can get my 180 rotary smot to go past the stick spot by at least 120 degrees with no input!  I believe I could get it to go all the way around but I have a big dropoff where the flux of the last few mags gets sucked up into the beginning of the reverse smot.  >:( I think Tom Ferkos 45 degree track demonstrates these principles in a linear way using straight inertia as opposed to centrifugal force.)  I am real close to going ahead and putting together some diagrams and starting a new thread combining all of this knowledge in a simple enough way to actually design a build a working model.  Probably is going to be a 2D Version of the Mikell device if anybody wants a head start on understanding the design.  Actually, I think my "reverse" smot (already built) can be fitted with a slightly different rotor and made to do the same thing.  The beauty is there are several different configurations that will work on the same priciple!

 

konduct

Another principle to keep in mind with the Mikovic device is that it is constantly immersed in a field...gravity.  The pendulum "rides" the "polarity" of gravity...With that in mind...I think a working smot will have to constantly remain within a flux field, just surfing the polarity changes and picking up excess energy from each wave.

konduct

Polite correction...The pendulum swings on a "straight" axis...Its trajectory is a circle. What happens if you swing a pendulum all the way around?  It makes a circle. 

konduct

I'm not trying to breed the smot with the Mikovic Device. What I am saying is the Mikovic priciples will apply to a magnet motor! Using centrifugal force to reset the cycle in a smot.  No pendulums in the magnet motor!  Do you understand what I meant earlier?

dean_mcgowan

Quote from: supersam on December 13, 2006, 06:38:38 PM
hey dean,

i don't think it takes that many joules of brain power.  all you have to do is keep the damn pendulum swinging and the rest of the system takes care of it's self.  maybe you should use some of those joules of yours investigating that!!!!

lol
sam

thats just what i am saying .. how is it your are going to interact with the pendulum without absorbing back any energy and also impart added energy to it to keep this baby going ..

I honestly think you guys are oversimplifying closing the loop here ...

ok the mercury switch gives you timing but you still need to know the angles, velocities and you need to also retract the the device that has exerted this new momentum (ie it has to be stopped as well as imparting force) .. keep doing your sums ...