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12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

Started by hartiberlin, November 30, 2006, 06:11:41 PM

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shruggedatlas

Quote from: Dingus Mungus on July 10, 2007, 03:59:39 AM
Untill you've built it and tested it yourself you'll probably never believe it. Thank god there are researchers here willing to do the job since you would never bother. So please try not to belittle others hard work. Real losers don't even attempt.

I too am a skeptic but even in simulations I've seen some merit in this device.

~Dingus Mungus

I agree that it is noble to dedicate your time to something worthwhile, and what could be more worthwhile than a discovery leading to free energy for the entire world to use?  Such a discovery would probably end poverty and generally improve the lives of everyone.

However, I do believe that this noble task must be tempered by some common sense.  The device we have here simply demonstrates mechanical advantage.  I have no idea why this thread was started under the topic of "12 times more output than input."  Surely the OP is intelligent enough to know the difference between force and energy.  Without that distinction, we must include every lever, screw, pulley, inclined plane as an OU device!

Maybe an OU device is possible, maybe it is not.  What is clear is that pendulums and levers are not the answer, so maybe we should stop beating our heads against that particular wall.  This is stuff we learn in middle school science class.

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shruggedatlas

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 10, 2007, 10:55:08 PM
http://www.rexresearch.com/milkovic/milkovic.htm

Why don?t the skeptics read the papers from the professors doing the calculations ??

Why do you call this a paper from a professor?  The page clearly states that it was adopted from Milkovic's own website.  The inventors own claims cannot be used to validate the invention.

The second link you provide, the pdf document, is directly from Milkovic's website.

Looking at the water pump example, I do not see anything out of the ordinary.  Instead of pumping, the operator needs to keep pushing the pendulum (much like Milkovic, in his own video, needs to keep pushing the pendulum while his device is lighting the flashlight).  It is easier to push the pendulum, due to the mechanical advantage involved, but there is no energy gain here.

shruggedatlas

Additionally, a couple people have posted in this thread that they have built this device themselves.  (It is a fairly simple contraption, after all.)  Neither noticed any energy gain.  Why are you convinced that there is any gain at all, much less 9 to 1 or 12 to 1 or whatever is claimed.  With a 12 to 1 gain, the pendulum should never stop!  12 to 1 is huge.  Why isn't this thing powering Europe yet?