12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !

[Omnibus]

Nice demand, but that would be the end of this thread. Maybe someone should only make demands if he leads the way in this too.

Why the end of this thread? So, you don't think a self-sustaining device based on Milkovic idea can ever be built, is that it?

[AnandAadhar]

Why the end of this thread? So, you don't think a self-sustaining device based on Milkovic idea can ever be built, is that it?

You say one should only post a success. Is this what you say such a success?
A selfrunning challenge? What is your experiment in this?

[Omnibus]

You say one should only post a success. Is this what you say such a success?
A selfrunning challenge? What is your experiment in this?

I think one should post careful analytical results proving this is OU or if a device is to be posted then it should necessarily be OU. Repeating over and over again variations of Milkovic's device brings no advance.

There were several papers written with some attempts of tom solve the differential equations describing the system eve prior to it being self-sustaining. These should be continued. I think a couple of Serbian authors did that, other than Milkovic. As far as a constructed device goes, it make sense to publish only a self-sustaining one, as I already said. Do as much work as you wand, try all kinds of variants but why publish it if it isn't advancing the matter at hand? What's wrong with experimenting without constantly showing to others your failures. The only reason I can think of is to alert them that there's still someone interested in the die and that it isn't dead. That can be said in words, then, from time to time without showing the failed attempts in. Ida and so on. Otherwise you're just fueling the negativism of the partial critics. That serves no purpose in the pursuit for OU.

[AnandAadhar]

I think one should post careful analytical results proving this is OU or if a device is to be posted then it should necessarily be OU. Repeating over and over again variations of Milkovic's device brings no advance.

There were several papers written with some attempts of tom solve the differential equations describing the system eve prior to it being self-sustaining. These should be continued. I think a couple of Serbian authors did that, other than Milkovic. As far as a constructed device goes, it make sense to publish only a self-sustaining one, as I already said. Do as much work as you wand, try all kinds of variants but why publish it if it isn't advancing the matter at hand? What's wrong with experimenting without constantly showing to others your failures. The only reason I can think of is to alert them that there's still someone interested in the die and that it isn't dead. That can be said in words, then, from time to time without showing the failed attempts in. Ida and so on. Otherwise you're just fueling the negativism of the partial critics. That serves no purpose in the pursuit for OU.

I agree with that. That is exactly what I am doing. Testing this and that but no real progress found as yet. I am convinced that to arrive at a OU device has a difficult learning curve.

[Omnibus]

Indeed, it's a very difficult engineering problem which shouldn't be taken lightly as if it's something insubstantial which we can play around with and make irresponsible videos just for fun. This is a serious business and what looks like fun is taken very seriously by those who want to destroy the OU research and falls right in their hands of destruction.