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Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

Started by gotoluc, March 23, 2018, 10:12:45 AM

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cheors

Quote from: r2fpl on May 14, 2018, 01:42:16 PM
Pierre,

Can You help us;

Do you use the principle of Figuera?

like: S|N (coil) N|S (coil) S|N .....N|S .....

or just Back EMF?

It would help in understanding :)


Thank You !

FR:

Pierre pouvez-vous nous aider ?

Utilisez-vous le principe de Clemente Figuera:

Comme ceci : S|N (bobine) N|S (bobine) S|N .....N|S .....

Ou juste le Back EMF?

Celà nous aiderait à comprendre .

Merci.

FixedSys

Quote from: d3x0r on May 14, 2018, 02:52:08 PM
....wish I had a 36 channel scope with current probes on each coil :)

Could you use the 16 Analog Inputs of the Mega in a duplex arrangement and log the output via serial for this?

Another advantage of this method is that if there exists a sweet spot in the combination of parameters into the circuit (channels, pulse frequency, pulse width, etc), then you can programmatically iterate over the ranges to cover all possible combinations while logging both the inputs and outputs to later see which combination produced the most interesting results.

pmgr

Quote from: r2fpl on May 14, 2018, 03:19:50 PM

Yes, pickup coil.  The idea is to make Pierre clarify what is going on.
When you reach the rotor you will understand that only in two places power is transferred. Left and right side coil (rotor).

My rotor coil is 0.9mm about 300m single wire. 6,67ohm and 850,5mH

See my video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE1ilIot8tU

Only one first coil worked.  Time delay is 3 ms.

I'm trying to understand ...
Hi r2fpl,


I was watching your video and can't understand what you are saying (not sure what language you are speaking). But one of the things I did notice is that the majority of the windings on your stator look burned out! They look dark and blackened where they come out of stator slots.


Maybe you can shoot a close-up video of the stator to confirm. From what I can see it almost certainly looks like they are burned out.


PmgR

d3x0r

Quote from: FixedSys on May 14, 2018, 07:08:25 PM
Could you use the 16 Analog Inputs of the Mega in a duplex arrangement and log the output via serial for this?

Another advantage of this method is that if there exists a sweet spot in the combination of parameters into the circuit (channels, pulse frequency, pulse width, etc), then you can programmatically iterate over the ranges to cover all possible combinations while logging both the inputs and outputs to later see which combination produced the most interesting results.
That's actually a good idea.
probably spend some time to build a quick javascript server that I can use buttons on a webpage to activate things...
reading a analog in can only be done 100,000/sec; (divide by 16 for all of them)   160us resolution for all; 10us resolution for a single one

r2fpl

What these numbers represent:

digitalWrite(1,HIGH), digitalWrite(13,HIGH), digitalWrite(25,HIGH);

These are the numbers of the transistors.

e.g. digitalWrite(1,HIGH) = first transistor = relay 1,14 = 1coil power on +|-
...

Going in this way we have 2xtriangles and exactly one star 6 arms. NSNSNSNS
Why ? because is compared to relays works on video and schematic circle by Pierre.
If the Pierra program is the same one that works 100% we only have a moving magnetic field nothing more. There is no flow of the stream to the rotor in sufficient energy.

We already know everything.

Up to this point everything is correct but what can be different ? what suits the video and information ?

How many coils are powered and how many receivers? The connection method shows that they all do the same. There remains a different combination of only the stator connections between the coils. If it's the way Pierre drew it:

1. Stopping the current
2. Shorting coils
3. joining AC, Yeahhh ...
1. and 2. together

and if an AC current flows in the circuit, it would explain 60Hz. Not from the network but from the inverter ?