Rene/Meissner EMF Higher Voltage Charger Variant

[gyulasun]

I do not recall such coil arrangement from Bill Müller you mention. He used 'step' like coil windings in his rotary motor - generators, you may recall that.

[SkyWatcher123]

Hi gyulasun, thanks for the reply, i will ponder that.

I found some files about Bill Mullers RLC circuit, it does look similar.
Both coils are coupled without a gap and in series, though not sure if bucking, though I bet they are, since his motor/generator used bucking or repulsion.
If you look at the circuit, it is using pulsed dc, so my circuit is also functioning similar, except for the capacitors.
It looks like it is splitting the positive with the coils, into the capacitor and then acting as a voltage doubler.
I seem to recall the circuit was well over COP 1.
peace love light

[gyulasun]

Hi SkyWatcher,

Thanks for showing the Müller RLC circuit, I surely missed this from him back then. You wrote:

"If you look at the circuit, it is using pulsed dc, so my circuit is also functioning similar, except for the capacitors. It looks like it is splitting the positive with the coils, into the capacitor and then acting as a voltage doubler."

In the schematic I see a full wave diode bridge that rectifies the 110V AC input and capacitor C2 is across the DC output of the diode bridge.  I labeled the positive output as A and the negative as B, see attachment. 

The two coils in series is connected between point A and C,  the latter point is also connected to the positive plate of another capacitor, C3 and also to one point of a load via a switch I labeled as S1. The other end of the load is connected to point B which is the common negative for C2 and C3 and also for the DC negative output of the diode bridge.
I inserted a second schematic which I think shows exactly the same circuit, it is a full wave rectifier with a pi filter feeding a load with DC power when switch S1 is on.

So I do not think there is pulsed DC in the load if you meant that, unless the switch is controlled by a pulse not shown.  And there is no voltage doubler in this.
If Bill Müller found overunity with this circuit, then the "wonder" to give that should be happening in and coming from the core material the two coils share. 

Can you agree with these?

Gyula

[SkyWatcher123]

Hi gyulasun, thanks for the good reply.
Yes, I could not find any of this on the web again, i had to dig in my archives.

Here is what i see, first, it looks like the symbol orientation of C2 and C3 on the original circuit is backwards and i think that is an error in drawing, yours is correct.
Then, the full wave bridge is outputting DC and it is not continuous, there is a pulsing effect happening.
So if a pulsing is happening, then C2 gets charge directly from bridge and C3 gets charge through the series inductor.
Then, if there is a break in the pulse, the coils collapse and couple with C2 to create a boosted volage into C3 and load.
Though if there is no make and break of the pulse from bridge, then what i just said, is not correct.
Not sure if the coils are bucking each other and what that may be doing, pulsed or not, though i see it's doing interesting things in my setup.
peace love light

[SkyWatcher123]

Hi all, I made another charge/load test with the same circuit and coils, though this time, i flipped the top 12 strand coil, so it is in attraction mode with the bottom 10awg. coil.
The efficiency came out almost identical.
So, it seems as though the bucking was not adding or subtracting from the charging efficiency.
For now, I'm leaning toward the higher efficiency being caused by the greater mass of copper.
Though I have one thing i want to test, separate both coils and physically place them apart, though still wired in series and see how the load test efficiency compares.
peace love light

Update: Finished the physically separated in series coil/core test, the efficiency was a little better, at 105.5%, charging the lithium ion battery.