Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[Void]

Hi Wesley, guys,

I have been away for quite a while. Very busy with work.
Wesley thanks for posting your ideas on Kapanadze's devices.

A few comments:

It is good to have ideas, but I think most people would agree that at some point you have to put
those ideas to the test on the bench to see if they might 'hold water' or not. My approach over the years has been to take
various ideas found in forums like this and my own ideas as well and try to distill them down to the simplest test setups
I can come up with to put those ideas to actual bench tests.

Regarding some of the ideas you have been mentioning here:

Electrostatic charging of capacitors:
I have experimented with using a high voltage electrostatic voltage applied to one
plate of a HV pulse capacitor (low ESR) with the other plate of the capacitor connected to earth ground, and I
was only able to get a weak charging effect. The capacitor was 'charged' using HV discharge pulses
through a sparkgap and through a HV, high speed diode to rectify the pulses to DC, so the cap could charge.
I tried the HV diode in both orientations (cathode to ground, anode to ground) with the same very poor results.
Results: Very weak charging on the capacitor. Output power would be very tiny compared to input
power to drive the HV flyback transformer.

Using multi-plate capacitors:
I have run quite a few different tests with home-made multi-plate capacitors
at lower voltages being fed in different ways and taking off the power in different
ways and found that output power consumed by a load was always matched with a corresponding increase in input power.
Results: I was not able to find any test configuration that seemed to give more power out than in (at lower voltages).
At much higher voltages and using higher capacitance home-made multi-plate capacitors, you might see
different results, but based on my experiments with electrostatic charging of two plate HV caps mentioned above,
it doesn't look too overly promising from the point of view of my own actual bench test results.
If there is a way to get OU out of such a setup, it would seem there may be something else missing yet.


Wesley, I appreciate your efforts to share your ideas, but I find your ideas are sometimes a little too disjointed
and too cluttered with other info or comments, so sometimes hard to follow. For what it is worth, my suggestion
for people who have ideas of how Kapanadze's or others' claimed FE devices might work is
to try to condense your ideas down and make them as clear and to the point as possible.
Keep other less related comments and ideas completely separate from any specific idea you are trying to relate.

Then think about the simplest test setup you can try to put those clarified ideas to the test.  If you make an effort to do it
that way, I think you will find that many ideas can be put to the actual test with relatively simple test setups.
Without distilling ideas down to a basic and straight forward and practical test setup, you only have ideas.

Remember Kapanadze was apparently not trained at all in electronics and also apparently didn't even have
an oscilloscope, so if his devices really work then the principle behind it would seem not to be very complicated.
From what I have seen, many people seem to try to over complicate things, even though they are aware that
Kapanadze was using only a very simple setup and apparently only had simple measurement tools such as
a voltmeter/multimeter and clamp ammeters.

I understand why many people think Kapanadze's devices must be fake, as how could such a simple
setup such as Kapanadze's early electronic devices such as shown in his 2004 video demo
power five 1kW bulbs fairly brightly and also self power the driving circuitry?
(Note: the 2004 Kapanadze setup showed  that it had only one earth ground wire.)
However, Kapanadze has demoed his devices under various circumstances in front of various
different people and no one has so far reported any credible evidence of tricks that I have ever seen.

His devices could be fake, but, the island demo for one, realistically would have been very hard to fake
if the circumstances that were reported about that demo are fairly accurate. Kapanadze was said to have
been taken to a random beach on a random island by boat by some potential investors and his device
ran right there on the beach. For me anyway, although Kapanadze's or any other FE claimant's devices could be fake,
the varying conditions under which Kapanadze has demonstrated his devices over the years lends more credibility
to his claims than many other claimants, at any rate.

Wesley, the idea that Kapanadze's or Akula's seemingly similar setups could be geo-location dependent has also
occurred to me, and I have mentioned this possibility a few times in the past as well. This would mean
that if you are not in a suitable location, all your experiments on these types of setups might be pointless.
Don Smith definitely indicated strongly in at least one of his presentations that geo-location was important
for his earth grounded devices, for which some of the devices he presented were seemingly quite similar to Kapanadze's devices.
Don Smith's claims were not so credible to me however, as I am only aware of one presentation
where Don Smith put his suitcase device to the test in front of an audience, and it was a bit too short of a test
to try to draw any definite conclusions.
One thing that makes me question this geo-location dependent idea for Kapanadze's devices anyway, is Kapanadze seemed
to have no problem demonstrating his setup in Turkey, and I think someone mentioned that the island demo Kapanadze did
was in the Mediterranean area somewhere, if I remember correctly. His device apparently worked well on that island as well.
Akula's setup however, which may be related but different than Kapanadze's devices did seem to possibly be very geo-location
dependent, although Akula apparently did get his dual tesla coil device setup to self run and power one or two small
fluorescent bulbs at the same time, in Germany, according to one video that was posted to Youtube. It wasn't kW's
of output however.

Wesley, if you are interested, I will post info here on a related setup to Kapanadze's devices which I think has a lot of
similarities to Kapanadze's simple bare bones 2004 device and green box devices, and which is quite well documented,
and which I think is reasonably credible as well. Let me know...

[AlienGrey]

Found this while searching an interesting lecture from Don L Smith.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S81tQBaAsuU

watch it while it's still on !!

[AlienGrey]

Did any one bother to observe or view and digest the Don L Smith film, I ask this as it is entirely relevant to our course.
If so you might be interested in the two postings below.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/fluxmg.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpendicular

I hope this all helps.

regards AG

[AlienGrey]

Cheers Void

If any ones interested on the 'Fux' aspect of the Tesla original device D L Smith worked on.

See link https://donsmithcoils.blogspot.com/2010/06/don-l-smith-device.html

Regards AG

[gyulasun]

Hi AG,

Okay on your comments in the Stiffler thread, thanks, and hopefully you manage to build a simple synthesizer with reasonably small components count.        Have you noticed my earlier reply to you here, perhaps you did:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg522477/#msg522477 

Gyula