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Kapanadze and other FE discussion

Started by stivep, May 26, 2018, 01:48:55 PM

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Quote from: seychelles on July 03, 2023, 12:16:39 AM
Not wireless but one wire still very interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TToFYXS3niM
excellent  comment.
about Professor Bank and his  "invention"
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So  at first  the one of the first experiments was  conducted in Israel. 7 years ago.  Technology never  become popular.
Professor Bank created electrical system using 1 wire only.
For that in the quoted  video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TToFYXS3niM
He delivered 240V single phase  to a  step up 6kV transformer and  than  to 200 m of single wire.
At the other end  of that wire  he connected  step down transformer from 6kV to 240V and than  he connected it with  one side to  a lightbulb (100W 240V)
and the other side with  isolated  packet of ground  by  plastic foil

As a second wire he used  that isolated  ground from  both sides calling it  artificial ground .
and his claim was that he is not using any second wire at all as the packets are insulated/isolated.
Wesley

stivep

Member of Russian Academy of science professor Bank
excellent idea had few flaws,
Despite of it he came to even better idea little later of having 3 phase system over  single wire .
But that I'll explain later .

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With all do respect  I understand  that soviet education  although  excellent than, - ended  in 1990 along with Soviet Union
crumbling down into another bottom manifesting its  disintegration, dissolution, decay, decomposition, rot, breakdown, putrefaction, spoilage;
After many years of Russian scientists soviet comfort they finally didn't have to deliver and match the new standards
and  new forms of understanding. They were just paid for being there, often more than  few hundreds dollars a month .
So major flow in this system is that professor Bank  didn't understand that  soil  divided by piece of plastic (dielectric) from the rest of the ground  creates capacitor .
And Capacitor conducts AC. His explanation  of phenomena in question was absolutely wrong.
But the system works.
If he  decided to   use regular ground instead it would work as well.

More will be later.


Sergh

Improved translation:

Tariel Kapanadze - Disk Generator (with Russian subtitles) 2001 year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrmPwny6bQ

In the video, the logo of the 1TV television channel of Georgia:  https://1tv.ge/

Briefly about the main things:

1. Kapanadze's engine is not a perpetuum mobile.
2. Kapanadze's engine is a gravitational engine.
3. The engine needs electricity from a built-in 10 watt generator for continuous operation.
4. The development of the generator took 20 -25 years. From the date of the video, the beginning of work on the generator is 1976 - 1980. Soviet times.
5. Generator efficiency at least 1 to 1000.
6. The engine uses gravitational energy. Gravitational energy generates electrical energy.
7. Kapanadze did not find similar engines from other inventors. In this video Kapanadze shows the 3rd version of the engine. The first, very small version, gave 1 kilowatt.
The second version was loaded with 40 incandescent lamps of 100 watts each.
This displayed 3rd version was created to demonstrate the basic principles of engine.
8. The axle of this engine rotates at 1800 rpm, you can add an overdrive to it and it will be able to turn an ordinary generator at 3000 rpm.
9.  Kapanadze talks about his other invention, "water powered auto". In April 2001, in the Russian magazine "Behind the Wheel" on page 174, is article about a Filipino (Daniel Dingel),  who invented a similar water powered auto. According to Kapanadze, this Filipino has a contract for 3 million a month that he will build a plant for the production of such devices for China.
There is link to this magazine article, in russian: https://www.zr.ru/archive/zr/2001/04/avtoprobieg-na-lunu)
10. Kapanadze tried to produce the device at the Tbilisi Aviation Plant "Tbilaviamsheni".
The device was shown to the general director of this plant  Pantiko Tordia, link to translated personal page about this man:

https://www-nplg-gov-ge.translate.goog/bios/ka/00009998/?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ka&_x_tr_tl=en

Kapa Banka - 28th April 2004 (with Russian subtitles)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2t_puDDhI

1. This device consumed 0.4 amperes from a 12 volt to 220 volt inventer, about 100 watts. The light bulbs receive about 5 kilowatts, 220V 24 amperes, 50 times more.
2. The device initially worked in a vacuum, therefore, it was inconvenient to assemble it into a finished structure. First assembled at the factory ("Tbilaviamsheni"?).
Initially, the generator and the entire mechanism was located in a vacuum. The generator was taken out of the vacuum chamber to the outside for ease of maintenance, because it often became faulty.
Between the mechanism, which should be in a vacuum, and the outside generator, an oil seal was installed, which did not let outside air into the vacuum chamber. But the generator often overheated. (it is not clear what kind of generator we are talking about, probably transistors on radiators)
Then .. it is not clear .. Kapanadze offended and  left the factory, where was the vacuum chamber. The video is probably shortened here. Tariel took the device with him and was able to make it work without a vacuum. But in a vacuum, the device could generate 2 to 3 times more power.
3. The first generator was for a power of 1 kilowatt.
4. Mamuka Khazaradze invited a scientist - physicist to demonstrate the device. The scientist was skeptical and did not accept the device without explaining the principle from  Kapanadze.
5. The device does not violate the law of conservation of energy, because it works in a system that has more than 3 dimensions.
6. Ether fills space. All space is filled with energy. "Theory of curved fields"
7. The generator (only the coil!) can work without initiating powering at all, without spark, absolutely disconnected from the 220 V converter, "by inertia" for a couple of seconds. Strange sound after turning off 220 V. Tariel suggests that this can be used to completely eliminate power from the output to self powering.

In YouTube settings, you can turn on the translation of subtitles into English. You must click the gear and select the option to translate subtitles.
Source:
https://mazeto-net.translate.goog/index.php/topic,11560.0.html

Quote from: r2fpl on July 01, 2023, 03:51:25 AM
A long time ago, someone from Kapanadze's friends wrote that he ordered a glass thing like a glass bubble and paid about $ 400.
I wonder why a glass bubble is so expensive. Probably something professional for vacuum work, or custom made.

Quote from: r2fpl on July 01, 2023, 03:51:25 AM
There may of course be an HF transformer because my 2kW induction cooker weighs 0.5 kg. It has an operating frequency of 147kHz if you can compare it that way.

Yes, he probably uses high frequency. But why is the output of his devices only 50 hertz AC? And where do we not see any complex rectifiers and unformers for 220 V 50 Hz at 5 kilowatts? It would be a very noticeable addition to the device. Somehow the RF initiation creates 50 Hz directly, in the oscillator itself, without diodes or transistors.

Quote from: r2fpl on July 01, 2023, 03:51:25 AM
However, I lacked proof that the Kapanadze device works in a vacuum! If what has been translated is true, then to my knowledge it will be a special cold cathode vacuum tube. The effect obtained is the dynatron effect, but no one has achieved amplification in the traditional way. This effect is neutralized normally because it harms the electron tube. Manufacturers specifically suppress it as much as they can.

I think Kapanadze can use a vaccume tube where electrons multiply.

I'm sorry, but the so-called "dynatron effect" corresponds to the term "secondary electron emission".
There is a kind of devices that work on this effect. They are designed optimally for this effect.
These devices are called "photomultiplier tubes":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photomultiplier_tube
These detectors multiply the current produced from first innitiating electrons by as much as 100 million times!
You can buy this devices cheap on the secondary market.
But examples of the use of photomultipliers as great energy sources have not been noticed.
By themselves, electrons do not produce energy. Energy is produced by the directed movement of electrons. The presence of electrons only improves conductivity.

Sergh

To everyone and Wesley:

I do not insist on my own, I do not demand to do anything that I want.
I just suggest doing what is more productive in the given situation.
Why try to contact angry random people?

In my latest find, there are at least 3 specific contact persons, and one specific organization:
1. Journalist of the 1TV channel. First name: Merab, Last name: not found. Worked in 2001 on the first channel of Georgian TV. Organized filming of a video about Kapanadze's devices. You can write to the contacts of the site of the 1TV  channel with a request to provide additional information or contact details of the journalist. Maybe he will say something. Or at least we will know his opinion about Kapanadze.
https://1tv.ge/lang/en/organization/contact/
2. General director of the Tbilaviamsheni plant Pantiko Tordia
It is difficult of course, he is already 88 years old. But maybe relatives or friends will be able to add something or take part in the discussion.
3. Mamuka Khazaradze - his role in the affairs of Kapanadze is not clear. Probably a friend or assistant. Probably hard to find something about him.
4. Tbilisi Aviation Plant "Tbilaviamsheni"
It is also difficult, more than 20 years have passed. But maybe suddenly there are participants in those events who can report something important. Especially after so many years they will not feel bound by any obligations.
https://tam.ge/eng/contact-us-en/
Why can't I do it myself?
I'm not the socialized type. It's hard for me to communicate with people I don't know. In addition, I will not represent their interest as a potential investor from the US or other Western countries.

stivep

Quote from: Sergh on July 04, 2023, 05:41:27 AM
To everyone and Wesley:

I do not insist on my own, I do not demand to do anything that I want.
I just suggest doing what is more productive in the given situation.
Why try to contact angry random people?

In my latest find, there are at least 3 specific contact persons, and one specific organization:
1. Journalist of the 1TV channel. First name: Merab, Last name: not found. Worked in 2001 on the first channel of Georgian TV. Organized filming of a video about Kapanadze's devices. You can write to the contacts of the site of the 1TV  channel with a request to provide additional information or contact details of the journalist. Maybe he will say something. Or at least we will know his opinion about Kapanadze.
https://1tv.ge/lang/en/organization/contact/
2. General director of the Tbilaviamsheni plant Pantiko Tordia
It is difficult of course, he is already 88 years old. But maybe relatives or friends will be able to add something or take part in the discussion.
3. Mamuka Khazaradze - his role in the affairs of Kapanadze is not clear. Probably a friend or assistant. Probably hard to find something about him.
4. Tbilisi Aviation Plant "Tbilaviamsheni"
It is also difficult, more than 20 years have passed.
But maybe suddenly there are participants in those events who can report something important.
Especially after so many years they will not feel bound by any obligations.
https://tam.ge/eng/contact-us-en/
Why can't I do it myself?
I'm not the socialized type. It's hard for me to communicate with people I don't know. In addition,
I will not represent their interest as a potential investor from the US or other Western countries.
I know  Mamuka  personally and rest of the crew.
We had nice time during Tariel recovery  after  Russian poisoning
in Tbilisi. He was taking me  with his car  to many places there .
I'm interested in science and its phenomena not with ownership or production.
Wesley