IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?

[George1]

No objections within a period of one month? How to interpret this result? Everybody here in this forum agrees with the validity of our zigzag conception?

[George1]

Deep silence within a period of more than one month? Shall we consider this silence as a public recognition of the fact that it follows directly from our conception that the law of concervation of linear momentum and/or the law of conservation of mechanical energy are not valid in some special certain cases?   

[lltfdaniel1]

Off topic but some food for thought,


Something ultimately had the power to create the universe, if it was power to create nor destroy where you can't create or destroy then the universe would not exist.


Anybody would come to the same conclusion that something had the power to create, learned or unlearned, but science apparently is not there yet to fully understand the power to create.


This power to create i reckon is an unequal force unlike today where most people understand equal forces which does not enable over unity and over unity is power to create where it gives more out than in.


More out than in i say, because behind all of it, the universe somewhere ultimately had the power to create.


Even laws of energy as you know does not deny the fact that something had the power to create and these laws of energy as most people know state nothing will give more out than in and in defence of this in a circuit as the laws state cannot create nor destroy.

So outside of this impossible limitation, i believe there is something outside of the box of create nor destroy in a circuit, by using the force that the universe used to create it self or create whatever

If this power to create was an equal force well i let anyone who reads my post to conclude whether power to create is an equal force or not but when you think the backbone of all of it the universe, if it was equal force it doesn't make sense to me anyways.

I suggest you read this https://100777.com/spiritual/beings_having_a_physical_experience

One way or another you have to provoke zero point, what i mean is zero point is believed to have no energy in it, which i believe is not the full picture, this is a power to create force, if you provoke zero point energy will appear from it and you have to treat it as an unequal power to create force for energy to come from zero point and be quick enough to capture energy at the same time.

Has to be an open circuit otherwise your circuit will fry when provoking and capturing energy from zero point if it is a closed circuit.

You have to vibrate it and zero point will respond to you with energy unlike thinking it has none what so ever.

My 2 pence.

Dan.

[lltfdaniel1]

It is clear it seems actual overunity is impossible due to laws of energy but maybe,


Maybe well think of it this way, the heat pump an under unity device because of it's efficiency but has a cop greater than 1, this is because it extracts energy from environment which is heat and has oompf because of the cop greater than one and i will say that this interacts with the energy from vacuum or zero point which is where the oomph comes from.


So with the extracted heat you have to externally move this heat (in a open loop circuit manner to escape the laws of energy fully with its cut off ability which makes over unity impossible which is cop not efficiency which is closed loop circuit and its potential to self run with excess energy but does not break the laws of known energy when done in a open loop circuit manner i think) energy around out of the circuit otherwise you can't get a self running heat pump or shall i say using the extracted heat which gives it cop over 1.


Because you will hit a wall which cuts of the advantage of getting the heat pump to self run off extracted heat, but somehow externally get the heat out before it is cut off.


I say there is no limit as to how hot the heat pump will get if you run it off extracted heat which is what the heat pump outputs with cop greater than 1, but limited as to how much heat it can harvest in a way.


It definitely seems possible if you can rescue the potential of the cop before it gets destroyed or cut off advantage.


The whole idea of this is this, to get it to self run off the over cop 1 heat and reput it all back in the heat pump to re harvest this cop greater than 1 back in.


So you have to if there is a way, to externally do it, by fully getting the energy out of the circuit move it around and then put that energy back in to repeat the process.


As have said, this in a way is indeed perpetual because of the ommpf of cop greater than 1 but efficiency is lower than 100% so it is under unity but despite the efficiency it will self run on solely extracted energy and give excess energy in the process to run a load whilst sustaining it self off extracted energy.


It is possible to get it to self run if you know how to rescue the energy fully out of the circuit move it around and then put it back in the circuit which is where it extracts heat.


See it that way and yes it is like a self running solar panel and yes it does get it's power to self run from the vacuum or zero point it self.


Self running with cop greater than 1 but the efficiency is under 100%, you will say that because of the efficiency it won;t self run but no despite this, i view it like this friction but somewhere this does not prevent that because somewhere in the process there is no friction what so ever despite you knowing there is friction.


Yep easy to be confused thinking it of as a fraud due to not being crystal clear as to how it runs, because they view the efficiency and how it would work because it wouldn't unless they learn.

Compare this with everything that is over unity and you will have a better chance of achieving over unity or a self runner due to the cop (where most see it can self run and have excess energy in the process to power a load whilst sustaining the self running process along with excess energy entirely of extracted energy) but not efficiency  (where most see and understand that overunity is impossible) and i see it is indeed there can be a way to achieve if there is one.

So yea externally recueing the energy to save it's potential and then externally input the energy back in so it does not get killed off regarding the power or torque or the self running process with excess energy to power a circuit.

See it that way and it does seem possible and could or will work regarding you must you know about electronics but because i am going on about the heat pump is because to me it is unclear as to how electric circuits could extract energy from the environment like the heat pump but energy being universal and if the heat pump can do it then perhaps electronics can as well.

yep that under unity circuit can be fully be powered by harvested energy and using harvested energy to self run it with excess of power to power a load that is what i see and everyone else because of the cop being greater than 1 but everyone can see it won't work because of the efficiency and because of the efficiency this self runner gets killed of and won't self run or give cop greater than 1 which is why you have to externally rescue energy and externally put it back in again and there you go in a open looped circuit fashion i think.

Arguments about resistance in circuit or friction does not apply you do not need to do anything about it because automatically it has tha process to fully work despite everyone seeing that, maybe not everyone well not me which is what i have learned about that.

The compressor of the heat pump at the source is closed loop where it extracts heat from and the way this closed loop works kills off the ability to self run with excess energy which fully disables the self running process with excess energy but it can be done to make an open looped compressor for the heat pump enabling it to self run with excess energy running solely off extracted energy which is linked to energy from vacuum or zero point and actually gets the power from zpe or energy from vacuum yea self run by putting all of the extracted energy back into the bit where the heat pump extracts heat from, you will have a self runner with excess energy and because of the excess energy which comes from zero point or energy from vacuum where it can power loads or work which is does without a shadow of doubt and with the excess energy of over unity with cop not efficiency will get hotter and hotter with no limit as to how hot it gets as there is no limit as to how hot it gets, so with excess energy it will accelerate into oblivion done by the excess energy it self which means this has real power or torque to do work (energy extracted accelerated with excess let over energy which is over unity) or be destroyed because of how much accelerated energy you get so you have to find a way to control that which can be done.

See it that way and you know theoretically that is can be possible, or possible varying on how to overcome the problem but can work if the problem is overcome as we can all see.

This heat pump has to be designed as a fully open loop circuit but for the heat pump to make this a reality otherwise the closed loop circuit of the heat pump compressor will overload whilst cutting off the potential excess energy that you can so plainly understand and see here.

What does the laws of energy have to say about open loop circuits i mean fully open loop circuits or fully open looped heat pump compressor, it does not break them and the dream of a self runner with excess energy is much much more realistic and understood and will work as that which is self runner powering a load, and the excess energy potential gets it from zero point or energy from vacuum and the secret of zero point is that create nor destroy apply here and science does not deny that at all whatsoever about what created the universe which was caused by a unknown force which creates things which is more out than in and this is a power to create force which is plain to see because of excess energy going back to the backbone of creation it self which is zero point which is power to create and is not balanced but created the universe and is a perpetual force but will be very hard to explain if you knew about it fully.

Yep this is indeed a perpetual self runner thanks to zero point the backbone of what started it all which is the universe and if you understand energy well all i have to say it will be hard to explain why this creation force on it's own created the universe, which is power to create ok, so the way you understand energy well it is losses energy this power to create does not work simply put ok which science does not believe in ok well prehaps not every scientise.

The power to create which is zero point created the universe on its own has power to create so is a un balanced force on it's own so being unbalanced means that power to create certainly is there and will create energy which is impossible which is the dream of over unity it self which is more out than in which is power to create, because energy has to return back to it self so this power to create force right and all of its power to create returns back to it, just saying that to make you understand how hard it is to understand why it does that which it does.

Come to your own conclusion and theory as to how the universe was created and how this energy behaves, for me the self running process of heat pump along with excess energy is due to the unbalanced force of zero point which is power to create ok which you can fully understand from what you can see here.

Every scientist and science it self will agree something created the universe with varying opinion but agreeing with the fact about that for me it is power to create but science in its confusion or denial won't agree about power to create but see it this way, on it's own behind all creations which it created has the power to create and they will much more likely understand and agree fully with that because with all energy, energy returns back to it self so envision this, if this force wasted energy the universe would not exist or if there was friction or any kind of over unity and put your understanding of impossible over unity and try to think as to what created the universe and you might just buy that this force has power to create one way or another..

This power to create is the holy grail of free energy if understood fully and many methods would be understood as well, but the heat pump with excess energy demonstrates the potential of how it has the power to create the power to create is exactly that which is the excess energy done by power to create from the vaccum.

whether unkown or known known concepts of science you have been taught is the opposite of how zero point works simply put, use those conceptes and understand, understand this, this force which is zero point behind absolutly everything and that energy has to return back to where it came from and that this force created the universe.

If this force was combustion it would not have power to create, if this force was balanced and equal, it would not have the power to create, so think and ponder about that and everything you have been taught by science about energy about how the universe was created, for one energy loss means power to create is impossible just to clear things up, this force is mostly unknown as to how it behaves by mainstream science really they all believe something created the universe somewhere but this force by nature with current concepts of science is wrong about zero point because they are treating this force that is does not have power to create but it they understand that then they will be leaning on about that it does have a power creation to it which means it self generates with power to create which is unequal and gives more out than in because it is behind everything and that is how the energy returns back to it giving it the power to create, so much more less than nothing and more then everything is.

So on your own to think and conclude that every thing behind it all, all of creations universe and all and this is behind it all with energy returning back to it, what is it regarding the nature of this energy force whatever you want to call it and compare them as to what you know about energy.

What is impossible from what you know is the opposite of what i know and have said here, more like power to destroy so you get the opposite of more out than in i think which is what science is based on which is why circuits etc get hot.

The reason why zero point is called zero point i think is because nothing can be over unity ponder about that and you might agree it goes along with the wasted methods of science as well nicely in fact but is absolutely illogical to think of it this way, but the way they treat it they might just find out the perpetual power of power to destroy and their concepts will be shattered because of the perpetual nature of it.

So yea the self running heat pump fuelled by the cop 3 heat output when running and then using all of the cop 3 heat back in the heat pump, which accelerates the process to no end as to how hot it gets and while exceeding the behaviour of the energy will accelerate past self running the energy it needs to run and then if it keeps accelerating it will exceed in power.

This reusing heat is part of recycling the energy or heat which will enable exceeding of energy, the heat pump while closed loop does not kill off the heat harvesting process, if the heat harvesting process was closed loop it would not extract heat from the heat in the air, and with that, you have to make the entire design open loop which can be done, so it will enable it to recycle the heat to self run and the faster it gets it will exceed in power.

Hope that make sense, because cop of 3 should be enough to self run with extra exceeding power depending on the design on the heat pump or a heat pump turbine of whatever form of technology, i am certain this principle is possible and would work.

Exceeding of energy? self run? is this possible? yes because it has momentum of energy where torque or work can be done and i have said it will get hotter to no end by reusing the energy and the reused energy has extras momentum due to zero point energy interaction in the process and this extra momentum is the exceeding of energy and this momentum is unequal like acceleration where it get hot to no end and unequal just like zero point and unequal in power generation.

If that is not the case if it had no momentum of unequal acceleration it would not get hot to no end which is the opposite of exceeding energy.

By reusing the heat and is quite clear it encourages even more heat to be extracted even faster i'll let you to think if this is an equal force, equal force of acceleration, people who know the heat pump know it has no limit as to how hot it gets be reusing the energy outputting and then reused.

The cop factor of 3 is a unequal force though is it not? it could have left over energy after using it to self run with left over energy which is exceeding power though so i'll let you reason with all i have said here, as in does this force of left over energy have any real torque or work in it, where would the energy come from?

The exceeding power could exceed even more, it is like as if it has broken the sound barrier into the unknown, the left over power which is exceeding meaning you can power a load from it, but i do not know where the energy comes from (which sustains the exceeding power and it could be unstable volatile at same time this unstable nature of energy is the key of over unity or free energy it self (because the unstable nature i think enables the use of the fully unequal force of power to create from the vacuum somewhere)though you have been taught to make the circuit stable with what you have learned in school or university regarding electric or energy circuits like the cavity or water hammer effects this is no exception) and any case this has to be tested to be accepted as evidence, or instead of powering a load use the exceeding energy to get even more energy out of it in a unequal fashion i think by putting the left over exceeding power of momentum into the heat extraction process which accelerates the process and getting even more power out because of it and would not be equal to power in and power out, this process of using excess energy is not equal but you get way more power out due to the acceleration or bending energy or unequal force, it would quadruple it self perpetually.

The reason why the water hammer or cavity is that it is banging the energy of the vaccum zpe and the process it is like an injection of energy from the vacuum simply put and the unstable nature of it is unequal force so the unstable aspect is unequal, unequal as in perpetually unequal perpetually unstable, unstable which you have been taught to prevent fully in your circuits, but it gets killed off in a closed loop circuit but open loop would be a good idea.


Dan

[lltfdaniel1]

Regarding the heat pump if you was to attempt this i think that the best approach is a fully open circuit that utilises parallel path technology maybe perhaps.

Yep whoever reads this all i have to say is theorize what created the universe, the power to create and the power creation force which is unknown.

If you put your current understanding while theorize it does not make sense or add up and is impossible with the way you see it but in denial or not knowing, not knowing the backbone behind everything where it outputs and then receives it back, regarding power to create and understanding energy which is like all connected or like a pack of dominoes it still does not make sense.

It would be impossible or very hard to explain and leave you speechless.

You cannot argue or discredit about what created the universe, all of mankind if they reason with, won't deny that if they have a open mind.

Even if they think if the power that created the universe does not have power to create which is what mainstream science wants to believe which does not make sense again because power to create can be idle doing nothing but the potential energy of power to create would be there or activated in a perpetual manner (which is what created the universe) and other unknown formality.

Also power to create does not convert it self fully but would somewhere, but the power to create is not a conversion force or conserving energy or converting energy which is what mainstream science and the flawed understanding of that regarding the heart of power to create.

So yea, that is my only defence of perpetual motion because a perpetual force created the universe if it wasn't the universe would not exist with reasoning they might just identify the power to create.

I am roughly am correct about that regarding the complexity of science.

Since every bit of creation has the power to create thanks to what created the universe and outputs and returns back to it in whatever state it is in, what would this force look like to you (if you can imagine or comprehend) unlike the massive problem of all forces are equal thinking which prohibit and is impossible to achieve real over unity or free energy which is what most people round the world can see like magnetic flux's and the like which is a struggle even for free energy pioneers around the globe as well as here in this forum or thread because they do not know about the power creation force and is working with partly flawed concepts and thinking that all forces are equal.

To me the creation power to create force and how i envision it, is that is accelerates to infinity getting longer in length as it accelerates instead of thinking all forces are equal though where it would not get longer in length, in a unequal fashion it quad quadruples it self instead of thinking all forces are equal.

There are things in science which also identify the process of when it accelerates it gets longer in length but it is an equal force and wastes energy where it can't recycle or enter energy in where this is totally different and alien at the same time.

What i am saying is that when it accelerates it is equal in acceleration which disables the core part of infinity, where this is opposite, it accelerates in unequal fashion and infinity is unequal, infinity is the speed of instantaneous never mind the limit of speed of light, the speed of light it self it out gunned by the power of infinity.

Infinity is instantaneous speed no matter the distance and within that thinking of it, will better comprehend as to why it goes off to infinity and power to create.

Because it is a very bendy force, it has to accelerate unequal because if it did not, infinity would not exist, if it accelerated in equal fashion it still would not make sense because of the limitations of equal forces where this is not, but if they can measure infinity that way they might come across signs that it is indeed an unequal force as to thinking it is equal.

Similar but yea this is a different breed of energy it self, it is not confined to the realms of forces being all equal in length.

If you try to measure infinity with a device that is limited to equal forces all i have to say either way, is that this energy is alien which is infinity as well as the device used to try and measure it.

speed of instantaneous is achieve with a unequal bendy force, the closer it is the slower it goes, but the further it gets the more it unevenly even further in length accelerates achieving instantaneous speed despite the distance which is the acceleration of free energy it self, sure it interacts with equal forces but yeah.

If you was at the far side of the universe or a few meters away it will be going at the speed of instant, and to achieve that infinity acceleration ultimately needs to be known fully to fully understand why this is the case.

It fits nicely as to people who talk about free energy or energy from the vacuum, knowing that this energy has those characteristics which is what i have said.

How would instantaneous speed be achieved if you was a few meters away or light years away in space it would have to be fully be unequal to reach the speed of instantaneous.

Hard to believe but i know it does go at the speed of instantaneous, if infinity speed was limit to speed of light then it would not be infinity and or have much less energy density that it does have.

Infinity has no limit as to how powerful it can be, right?

very difficult to explain but i did my best.

Dan.