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Bifilar pancake coil overunity experiment

Started by ayeaye, September 09, 2018, 09:42:32 AM

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ayeaye

Quote from: dani1 on September 10, 2018, 07:07:41 AM
do you want to replicate following?
https://www.facebook.com/ricard.montseny/videos/vb.100000949034144/2150504444991169/?type=2&theater
https://www.facebook.com/ricard.montseny/videos/vb.100000949034144/2170624892979124/?type=2&theater

No i cannot, i have no induction cooker. Also using light bulbs is an improper way to measure power, it is very difficult to measure their brightness, and in these videos they don't even try to do that. If you did use heating elements instead or such, you could at least measure their temperature, and from that you could calculate power, though whether they are in the air or in the water, what is the temperature of the air or water, whether the wind blows or water moves, all should then be measured and included in the calculation. No matter how convincing something may look, without a proper measurements the experiments are worthless for research. I mean what you do may be great, all i'm saying is that you lack the necessary rigor.

ramset

Well

there is a beautiful simple test procedure for this...light bulbs or whatever ??



no problem
was taught to us years back by a very Schmart man who could do almost everything
with absolutely nothing....
Fixed loss to ambient test protocol
I will look for the simple write up and post it here.


respectfully
Chet K
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

ayeaye

I now enhanced the oscilloscope screen image more with edge detect, on figure 1 below, and changed the gschem graph to more exactly correspond to the oscilloscope screen. The sch file is now the following.

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v 20130925 2
L 60500 42500 60900 41900 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 60900 41900 61300 41700 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 61300 40500 61600 41000 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 61600 41000 62000 41300 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 62000 41300 62400 41400 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 62400 41400 63800 41500 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 60500 40000 61300 40100 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 61300 40100 61300 39000 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 60300 41500 64000 41500 3 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 60300 39000 64000 39000 3 0 0 0 -1 -1

The power supply as measured with a multimeter, was 11.84 V.

The output of the Python script above with the sch file above is now the following.

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Input power was 5.277 uW
Output power was 7.500 uW

But output is still greater than the input.


ayeaye

What is in this forum, all are gone from here? Only a few people i see, here used to be always many four years ago, when i last was here.

Also, consider that in my bifilar pancake coil coaxial cables were used, like these used in the headphones wire, instead of pairs of wires, coaxial cable provides much more capacitance between the windings than a pair of wires, and this what i think is the most essential for bifilar coil.

I don't know what is the cable that i used for my coil, i cannot find it anywhere. Maybe something like that below, headphone extension cable, where the two coaxial cables are side by side, not twisted, this also makes the cable flat, more like tape, and easy to make a pancake coil. But it was thicker, and 20 feet (6 m) long.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Quality-3-5mm-Extension-Headphone-Plug-Jack-Audio-Cable-Male-To-Female/262803920459?epid=2133356404&hash=item3d3055964b:g:iAkAAOSwYeRZ5cNo