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New discovery suggest that permanent magnet motors might be possible

Started by Low-Q, September 26, 2018, 11:53:45 AM

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QuoteFor instance the electronics formula E=1/2 * Q²/C can let you think that decreasing C will give you free extra energy in the capacitor. But you will be wrong. You must calculate the work of the electric force F=q.E on the electrons when you move the plates apart from each other in order to reduce the capacity. This mechanical energy will be exactly the "extra" energy that you retrieve inside the capacitor, but it has been spent to change C, not free! Same thing with parametric inductance (Steorn's motor mistake).

I would agree and it is best to concentrate on the fundamentals courtesy of people like Ampere, Faraday, Weber, Tesla, Steinmetz and others before all the hocus pocus introduced by Einstein and friends. In fact there is no free lunch and the forces on the fields of any given particle are not much different than tangible objects. My examples were simply to illustrate that there are many ways to skin a cat.

QuoteThe idea to use explosions to change drastically a parameter is not new either ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosively_pumped_flux_compression_generator ). It's not easy to be revolutionary in physics because physicists are curious people and they always try to find loopholes in their theories to go further.

Yes I am well aware of how flux compression or EMP devices work and I have done a few experiments however I was not speaking of the magnetic field but violent expansion/contraction of an electric field which is almost unknown in the art. The magnetic field is not the glue which binds matter together it is electric in nature. In fact the magnetic field has been studied to death for decades and the electric field was ignored however this is no longer the case. Meta-materials or nano-technology, cold fusion and dual layer capacitor/membranes have opened everyone's eyes to endless possibilities. I have little interest in magnetic fields... it's a well worn path to nowhere in my opinion. I mean it doesn't even bother to show up until after the electric field has done all the work, lol.

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The question is not always how are all these things the same as other things but under what circumstances are they not the same. Under what circumstances does something cease to act as we would expect it should?. That is creativity, invention and a much more difficult proposition than the same old thing in my opinion.

QuoteThe method is right. The implementation is much more difficult than we think. I don't count the number of times I thought I had a new idea, and physicists had been working on the subject long before, even for some, in the 19th century!  :'(
Nevertheless we have to try our luck...

It sounds like you have done a few experiments, lol. First it is hard enough to get even a basic experiment set up with anything in the way of accurate measurement. Then if there are multiple timing functions or variables the setup looks easy by comparison. Then once everything plays out we have the problem of determining what the measurements were looking at actually mean in reality. There is nothing easy about it in any sense of the word in my opinion however it is the only way to learn something new.

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New discovery suggest that permanent magnet motors might be possible
« on: September 26, 2018, 05:53:45 PM »


I stumbled across this link. Interesting reading, but is it legit?
Please share your views on this.

https://www.powerelectronics.com/alternative-energy/new-discovery-could-lead-commercial-production-permanent-magnet-motors


posted by Vidar

Re: New discovery suggest that permanent magnet motors might be possible
« Reply #66 on: October 14, 2018, 09:39:30 PM »

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Quote from: Belfior on October 14, 2018, 03:55:31 PM

"    If you have an intuitive idea that is out of the normal scientific scope, just discus it with your friends and try to prove it on your bench."  END QUOTE

Quote from  floor
"Is this a bench proof or do I need high def video and replication,
or is this fudamental enough / obvious enough to speak for itself ?

Not trying to be a smart a___s here... just asking for opinion."

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978

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Bifilar.... your responce

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"Well I think it depends what your intentions are? If you want to stay alive you don't tell anybody about it and you just grind bitcoins in your garage with your free electricity."
End Quote

Bench proof or not depends on ones intentions ? non secquiter or what ?

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6v9zkz


Floor

thanks

These are the same videos I last posted in the other topic (Magnet Motion and Measurement)
You have seen them ...

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6vbmvo

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6va1an

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