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New discovery suggest that permanent magnet motors might be possible

Started by Low-Q, September 26, 2018, 11:53:45 AM

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telecom

Quote from: F6FLT on March 08, 2019, 02:47:08 PM
The notion of force is irrelevant in matter of energy. Energy = Force x Displacement.


Kozeka calculates forces but not work which is the only interesting concept, either because he is incompetent or because he is looking for investors for a scam (otherwise why?).
This is absolutely untrue.
In his documents he goes to a great length explaining what you just wrote about force vs work,and he doesn't find work being the same in a different planes.
This is caused by the difference in the density of the magnetic field.

F6FLT

Quote from: telecom on March 08, 2019, 04:50:00 PM
This is absolutely untrue.
In his documents he goes to a great length explaining what you just wrote about force vs work,and he doesn't find work being the same in a different planes.
This is caused by the difference in the density of the magnetic field.

This is perfectly true, "Kozeka calculates forces but not work which is the only interesting concept", and the paper you gave proves it: we see a beautiful formula "work = force x distance" but then only force tables, for example from page 48 onwards, and no tables of the work of the forces. Or specify the page.

When you see the document starting with considerations on pollution, oil, or digression on the strength of neodymium magnets, rather than getting to the facts, you understand that it is simply a matter of impressing and preparing a psychological conditioning to make us swallow a big non-scientific absurdity. I know this method, I've read dozens of them before, each time scams.

telecom

Go to the page 10, this is where it starts.
I don't blame you for your apprehension, but this document seems to be
within reason, as long as all the data are correct.
I will try proving it myself, just need to get a digital fish scale.

F6FLT

Quote from: telecom on March 09, 2019, 09:17:52 AM
Go to the page 10, this is where it starts.
I don't blame you for your apprehension, but this document seems to be
within reason, as long as all the data are correct.
I will try proving it myself, just need to get a digital fish scale.

Nothing on page 10, only the value of a possible work doable by a magnet is given (in an exotic non-scientific unit, work/energy is in Joule, at least in Wh, not in "inch-pounds" :), we see they target the laymen and the investors ). Of course a magnet can work, it depends on its initial magnetic potential energy, everyone knows that.
The problem is that nowhere is there a calculation of the work of the forces in both cases of movement, with their comparison for a possible gain. Their analysis is an empty shell, its appearance is misleading.


telecom

Quote from: F6FLT on March 09, 2019, 01:03:12 PM
Nothing on page 10, only the value of a possible work doable by a magnet is given (in an exotic non-scientific unit, work/energy is in Joule, at least in Wh, not in "inch-pounds" :), we see they target the laymen and the investors ). Of course a magnet can work, it depends on its initial magnetic potential energy, everyone knows that.
The problem is that nowhere is there a calculation of the work of the forces in both cases of movement, with their comparison for a possible gain. Their analysis is an empty shell, its appearance is misleading.

When I was in school, they taught me work in kg * m - what is the difference?
The comparison of the difference of work in the axial vs lateral directions is on page 12.
Can you for once read the whole document before commenting?