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What's a magnet/ gravity motor worth to you?? New way of thought.

Started by magnetman12003, January 10, 2019, 01:21:06 PM

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eavogels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8-Kek8Halc

Perhaps this video explains about how it works. Not exactly the same, but close enough.

ramset

VEproject1's video above ...he does make believe devices for teaching purposes! [he sure does a good job,looks real as always]

Just a repost of Tom's claim

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A very powerful long rod external magnet is hand held or mounted close to the outside drums center. That in turn repels the inside magnet drum ring to the opposite side. With a horizontal center axle going through the outside drum the inside magnet ring should not touch it.   A very small black spot in the center is where the center axle was drilled open for later. The inside magnet ring floats around and normally centers itself at the bottom of the external Drum when the external magnet is not present. However when repelled or pushed to one side of the center axle gravity takes over and the inside magnet wheel rotates along with the external drum providing there is excellent friction between both of them.     I have used silicon tape for that purpose.   Very simple to construct. Red ends of magnets are my north poles.  Other side are south poles marked blue not shown. Tom..

..also this quote from Tom..

It was hand held.  See no reason fixed will not work.
Attraction is out!!! The only thing that will happen is very quickly the inner magnet wheel will jump towards the external magnet and PIN itself to the internal sides of the drum enclosure without the drum rolling at all.  So NO ATTRACTION to be used.


It has not happened to me but if to much repell is used I guess the same pinning thing might happen on the opposite side of the drum even if that side is very heavy.-..
The fixed magnet is being hand held on the ""OUTSIDE ""of the drum??  Inside the drum is the magnet wheel.  I did not realize I did not make that point clear enough??  Two bearings are used.  One for the drum axle bottom and one for the removable lid axle so the magnet wheel can be removed.
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

eavogels

Quote from: ramset on January 15, 2019, 09:05:50 AM
The fixed magnet is being hand held on the ""OUTSIDE ""of the drum?? 


Tom writes: outside of the center. I think he means inside the drum, off-center.

ramset

In Skywatcher CGI post #32 this thread ,Tom makes a correction about the inside drum needing to be bigger and also emphasize the outside polarity//
Tom ....Quote..The magnet wheel in your diagram needs to be made much larger so it always clears the central axle of the Drum when the magnet wheel rotates or floats around.


The external magnet has to have polaritys reversed so it repels.



I hope this clears things up.


Tom ....end quote..,
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Thanks Grandma

nul-points

Quote from: gyulasun on January 14, 2019, 06:35:10 PM
Hi Tom,
I kindly ask you to repeat the test (when you have the time) with a rigidly fixed magnet too because
a hand held magnet always include hand movement, whatever small it may be.  When your fingers have to
work against repel forces while holding the magnet, unwanted and mostly unnoticed finger  or hand movements
can add  "input energy"  to the system. 
The rigidly fixed magnet test should be done even if only the mere presence of the repel field is needed for the continuous operation 
i.e. only a non-moving, static field is needed at one of the sides of the outer drum.
Gyula

i agree, Gyula - this project has a sense of deja vu for me - i'm pretty sure that there's been at least 1 other system like this which works well when external mag is hand held but stops when the external mag is fixed ('Whip-Mag', maybe?)

i think they found that because of what folks have said about slight movement when holding 1 mag near others then the hand movement is part of the system - theres a sort of phase-delay in the hand movement - as you try to keep the ext mag still, you compensate slightly and inadvertantly add some external energy, slightly out of phase with rotor and the whole thing keeps going, but when ext mag is fixed, no phase-delayed input, & rotation stops

i hope this isn't true of this system but be prepared for disappointment...

all the best
np
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