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Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board

Started by ramset, September 18, 2019, 09:15:01 AM

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Jimboot


gotoluc

Quote from: Jimboot on September 28, 2019, 07:22:59 PM
http://Https://vizivtechnologies.com commercial transmission co FYI  Using Zenneck waves

Yes Jimboot, we are well aware of them. However, fact is still 99% of the electrical engineering establishment do not believe what they claim is possible.
It will remain a pipe dream until the day they publicly provide the service they claim.
Even then they'll have to deal with maybe years of 3rd party verification's before "The Establishment" is ready to rewrite the possibility of efficient high power wireless transmission.


Understand that even one wire power transmission is not possible according to "The Establishment"
Any educated engineer will tell you current must have a return path.
So just proving efficient one wire power transmission alone will be quite a feat!!!

Regards
Luc

gotoluc

Two different tests to verify ground rod impedance and ground resistance between the two 10 feet deep copper grounding rods.


Video demo: https://youtu.be/yAzWwAbDpFk


Regards
Luc




stivep

It looks  like    you guys didn't read what I  wrote in  here and in
Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
I'm not so  much  available now to respond as I have  major Jewish holiday,  and that's  few  days.
short note:
1.  you don't much  care what is the resistance of the ground   however it may  help
2.  you  are   not much interested  what is the current in  the ground, however it may  help .
3.  The Goubau line is made  not by use  of single wire  ,but by use of  single wire coated  with  dielectric that creates interface.
     and the line between  two  Tesla coils will work  only if you have  interface.
3a.depends from  frequency it may need   the TAPER as  explained here:
http://jpier.org/PIERM/pierm54/04.16120207.pdf
Capturing Surface Electromagnetic Energy into a DC through Single-Conductor Transmission Line at Microwave Frequencies

3b.  non coated  copper  wire will work as well , but if  it is  not coated  than  role  of  dielectric is taken by air.
And  space between air  and  wire  is called interface   however nobody  tends  to recognize it  this way.
If you  use  air as  dielectric  than   you  have  a lot of losses

4. So how it is that for Goubau  line  you need to  have   wire  that is  coated   with dielectric?

Answer: first we  need to  understand  what is interface.:
it is space  or  rather   plane or area  between  two media  with different  dielectric  or conductive properties.
that includes  earth  that now  is  named: LOSSY  CONDUCTIVE MEDIUM.( google it)

examples of   interface:
1-  dielectric and another  dielectric   with different dielectric properties
such as teflon  and  polyamide one on the top of another. The space between  them is your  interface.
for your  eye there is no space but  for EM wave it is.

2-  dielectric and  conductive  medium
such as copper foil( conductive  medium)  and air (dielectric)
Because the surface  of 1ft wide aluminum foil   is  better than  surface  of wire    used in Goubau  line than we have  much less losses if  condition needed for   energy transmission is met.
example of  this interface is here:
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=369

3- lossy conductive  medium and dielectric     
such as  earth  and air.

there are more  types of   interface   and  these interfaces works  little different at different  frequencies.
That means   interface will  always be    the same  interface but  means of  feeding   EM wave  into the interface and out  may be characteristic   to given  frequency range.

Failures:
The failure   of your experiments  can be caused also by:
1. lack of impedance  match.
2. lack of proper  polarization AND BREWSTER  ANGLE - that is done (at its easiest)  by  changing elevation of top capacitor . HV Tesla coil  must be vertical to the  ground 
3. lack of resonance in both  the Tx  and Rx  Tesla coils
4. standing wave is:
Quotestationary wave, is a wave which oscillates in time but whose peak amplitude profile does not move in space.
so you need to free some   of its energy   and  feed it into interface at right Brewster angle.
5. your two  coil   the  Tx  and Rx system, between two points  A  and B is  reactive   system. 
that means   its capacitive and inductive - (reactive components  )  reactances  will be  the  most    important despite  the   distance between the  points.  (e.g 30m or  30 000 meters  it is always going  to be the same dependency present)

6 .wood is  not  the dielectric for us.
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=412
That  video  shows also the  difference between  dielectric suitable for  us  and  wood  table)
the interface is made by surface of dielectric and air
even  if  there  is  not receiving Tesla coil it is capacitive  coupling
of lightbulb  and my hand -that is my body  as part of resonance circuit

7. improper mode of  your EM wave
That  means that EM wave in its  regular  form  is TEM ( google it)
Your TEM wave in the interface is  now at TM mode-transverse magnetic mode. ( google it)

Note:
behavior of TEM in Near Field is different  that in Far Field
typically  the  Brewster Angle from Top Capacitor down to Earth  is reaching  Earth at end of Near Field 
However  if   Top  Capacitor  is elevated low above the ground  than distance from  the bottom of  the Tesla Coil to the
point   of line  drown  from Top Capacitor  to the Earth surface   at 65  to 67 degrees  may be shorter than
the end  of Near Field  or it can   "land"  on  Earth( - the lossy conductive medium) at Fresnel Zone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_zone

so the recommended distance between two Tesla Coils the Tx and  Rx at 1.1MHz  is more than  21m
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field

Note:
Please understand that  TEM in TM mode is NON-RADIATIVE !!!!!
that means as you are  in  Far Field  you cant  receive  it  in air.
It is not radiating.
Wesley