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[ayeaye]

I might mount the permanent magnet onto a soft spring if a permanent fixture does not work.  Maybe a little bounce might do the job.

This doesn't work. Moving it takes energy, one may make something to bounce, and it works for some time, but because it needs energy, it will bounce less and less, until your initial hand given energy ends.

No i don't discourage anyone, but for it to work, there should be a reason and principle why it should work. If there are none, nothings starts to work just by miracle. And trying it without well knowing the reason why it should work, will be a great waste of time and effort. I'm all for finding solution, if you know anything about me, i am.

[magnetman12003]

I just found that a small rod magnet with a ball magnet attached to both ends is spaced exactly
the same distance the magnets on the wheel are spaced out.


When placed in a vertical position next to the spinning wheel the wheel moves rapidly.
However it pulses and I believe a soft rubber washer will allow that to happen mounted under the rod/ball magnet affixed to a stationary vertical support.


Tom

[Dansway]

I think if one would ponder certain ancient symbols of movement, it would teach a lot about magnetic motor principles.

[kolbacict]

Unfortunately, electric motors from tape recorders, etc., mainly use soft permanent magnets. Flexible.Only in Russian electric motors there are ceramic magnets.
p.s.By the way, I had a thought. Can we use flexible magnets for our purposes?From it we can cut out any shape we need. And any orientation of magnetization.

[ayeaye]

p.s.By the way, I had a thought. Can we use flexible magnets for our purposes?From it we can cut out any shape we need. And any orientation of magnetization.

Do you mean neodymium? Buy some magnets, they are not expensive. From ebay  https://www.ebay.com/itm/N52-Industry-Strong-Rare-Earth-Magnets-NdFeB-Neodymium-Block-50-x-25-x-10mm/223443593323?epid=2117932201&hash=item340646a86b:g:Mf0AAOSw7ilchbcL , or supermagnete  https://www.supermagnete.de/eng/ . Ah yes, you can get a strong neodymium magnet from an old hard drive, but it is weird shape, it is long and thin with poles at its ends.

I am poor, i should say, but several years ago i bought some ceramic magnets from supermagnete (ceramic magnets are made of ferrite, they are cheaper than neodymium).

You can cut a shield too, when made of laminations of an old transformer, with an ordinary scissors. Mu metal taken from an old hard drive is a bit more difficult to cut, though it is soft like iron and one can saw it, but it may lose its shielding properties, when doing so.