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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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giantkiller

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"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to bind them,
One Ring to bring them all and from the darkness find them."

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Due to overwhelming response and suggestions, I figured I would comply. Today after it was found out that I was holding my TPU in my hand with hard kicks emminating from it, I was stoutly told to shield the unit and 'Don't touch the ring!'
That showed me that I had made great progress. This thread starts with those kicks that were so hard to acquire before that are now all over the place and dangerous. This thread also marks the great step into tuning. I shudder at the possibilites without safety and control.
Once upon a time there were 2 bicycle mechanics that wanted to fly. Now we're beyond the solar system. ;)

So let us not tarry any further... for we must not look back.

Welcome to the next step of the TPU. The Ring tune. Ta-da!

--giantkiller. Please extinguish all smoking material. We don't want to encourage any unwarranted results. Any and all results gotten reflect those of management at one point or another in time.

giantkiller

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I am listing the instructions here to wind and drive a TPU that produces kicks. Guaranteed!
A word of warning: There is a high degree of danger in doing this!
Overunity comes from the collaspe of the magnetic field.
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Devices such as lifters, the ECD, the Turbo coil, and this one here all exhibit the same
physical property called the wing edge effect. That is where the Radiant energy flies off.
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The rule is: DO NOT TOUCH THE RING! when it is on. You've been warned. I accept no responsibility for your attempts at completing this project. You are at your own risk. If you follow the instructions and end up in a dangerous situation, it is your fault, not mine. I have had my dangerous moment already and it isn't pleasant.

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I have gathered up the pictures of the device specifications at the bottom of this post.
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These instructions are the latest. This post supercedes all other posts.
Let's start off with with the coil specifications:
Coil diameter is 4", but this can vary, and consists of 3 layers of:
Collector coil is garden wire, 22 turns, standard size and there are 6" leads coming out.
Control coils are 4 segments of 30 gauge magnet wire, 200 turns in each segment.
The feedback coil is 16 gauge speaker wire (single run) wrapped around all layers in 4 segments of 17 turns.
Feedback and controls are wound using right hand rule. starting closest to you and winding over the top of the collector, down through the center, out the bottom, and back towards you, then back up to over the top following the turns to the left. Looking from the top we are traveling in a clockwise direction.
The control segments have 200 of these per segment and each turn is touching the last. There is a gap of about 1" between segments. they are proportionally spaced around the collectors.
The feedback windings are similar in their 17 turns. Each turn touches the last. There is about 1 1/4" gap between these segments.

Then interconnect the whole system by Ottos diagram shown at bottom of this post.
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I power the 555s with +5v and the tip41b-s with +12v. Bias resistors are 100 ohms.
Transistors like http://www.bourns.com/pdfs/tip41.pdf or equivilant.
The duty cycle resistances are 200k pots. The frequency duration resistances are 200k pots. The Tantalium capacitors range  in value from .01uf to 10uf. Switch them out to suite your tests.
My settings for frequency are <200hz for all 3 555s. Vary to suite your tests.
There is only +DC pulses.
My power supply is +12v @ 8.25a

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Now let me be the first to lead by example. As you can see by the picture we have captured the ellusive Ring. It is safely in its cage in a quiescent state at the moment. Fear not, should it be aroused. But for safety sake let's not awaken it from it's dormant place. We are now safe. Should the creature perk up and start chattering, it is secured in a shield of containment.

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What I have used here is screen door aluminum cloth, formed into a block secured with duct tape. The floor is perfboard with 2 layer screen underneath. Didn't want anything shorting out.

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Let's talk for a moment about the sweet spot when tuning.
I used my right hand for this test. Not good! I hope the tuning fork sound will replicate the ability of feeling the sweet hit. I call it sweet for a damn good reason. The field appears in smooth layers around your hand almost like a light plasma effect. This is when you feel the temperature jump up. You feel the kicks pulsating through your flesh. It's not the heat that is the problem. It is what you don't see. It is etched indelibly in my mind, no really, headache and eye ache included. If I can get some sort of tool to catch what I felt that would be tantamount! I would then have a console indicator. And with that measurement I can trip a kill switch with a visual feedback indicator automagically. I could use a heat trip but I need to balance between heat level and desired results.

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I worked the previous days without using any shielding and suffered a severe headache.
We are past the stage of just winding a coil and turning it on.
This stage of building means business.
I tested the cage in my weakened state and found out that I did not degrade any further. It only takes a matter of minutes to feel the effect of a closely tuned ring. My suspicion is if you feel the sweet spot on your hand, you then have achieved the headache in time. Turn the device off. Your fun is over for the time being.

Rule #1 for an active device?
DO NOT TOUCH THE RING!

Mandatory tools for this thread are a cage! The warning above still applies.
If you tune without a cage you are exposing yourself to harmful waves.
The kicks kick ass. Yours!

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Current Must things to do:
Replace the potentiometers with a higher quality. This will definately change the results.
Consolidate the mag wires tighter into the coil. This is to prevent breakage during portability.
Apply Thermometer to coil for temperature tests in sequence with locating the sweet spot of tuning.
Apply Amperage meter in line with PSU in sequence with locating the sweet spot of tuning.
Apply Tuning fork on coil. I'll bet you this is better than using magnets when locating the sweet spot of tuning or cooking my hand!

I will post the results here of the Potentiometer replacement.

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Additional specifications
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If you just want to skip ahead to the final answer
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg32490.html#msg32490

Words of affirmation
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg21446.html#msg21446
Words from on high
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg21532.html#msg21532
GK4 kicks
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg21633.html#msg21633
Radiant energy explaination
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg21701.html#msg21701
Ark of the Covenant
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg21846.html#msg21846
GK5 hooked up
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22046.html#msg22046
TPU coil pictures
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22262.html#msg22262
Radiant diagram
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22324.html#msg22324
SM ring construction
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22651.html#msg22651
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22789.html#msg22789
SM17 operation
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22793.html#msg22793
SM17 Hieroglyphic
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22841.html#msg22841
Coil Drive specifications
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg24115.html#msg24115
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg24372.html#msg24372
SM17 test platform
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg24409.html#msg24409
Interfering frequencies
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg24501.html#msg24501

This just in......
The term 'flyback' probably originated because the high voltage pulse that
charges the CRT capacitance is generated by the collapse of the magnetic
field in the core of the transformer during the short retrace period - when
the electron beam in the CRT 'flies back' to the start of a new scan line.
The flux in the core changes slowly during scan and is abruptly switched
in polarity by the HOT turning off and damper diode turning on during this
flyback or retrace period.
http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_flytest.html#FLYTEST_006

I bet you the exploding TV had an open transformer arrangement in it and probably cheap potting material. Today it is a wonderfully strange looking device, heavily shielded and so are the drive electronics.

B+ ------+     +----|>|-----+---o +V1  B+ ------+     +----|>|-----+---o +HV
         o )|:|( o  Scan     |                  o )|:|(   Flyback   | 
           )|:|(  Rectifier _|_                   )|:|(  Rectifier _|_
           )|:|(            ---                   )|:|(            ---
           )|:|(             |                    )|:|(             |
     _/\_  )|:|(             |              _/\_  )|:|( o           |
HOT ------+     +------------+--+      HOT ------+     +------------+--+
                               _|_                                    _|_
                                -                                      -
Step up xfrmr, diode and a cap. Hmmm, looks like a stungun. If there was a spark gap after this you can kiss your cheeks goodbye. Danger, Will Robinson!
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg26692.html#msg26692
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Flyback, stungun, retrace, bedini motor ckt all the same. Kicks, kicks, kicks.
Feed em back, let 'em fly. Circulate them puppies. Run 'em around.
This oughta make things simple.
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Otto's jumpering shows just this. Freqs in at the bottom and circuit on top to +v. I will go back and try this. I have to rewire GK4 to this. Was gonna do this anyway. But this time the feedback connected in reverse.

The collapse of the wave was the overall theme of the Dale Pond google video. In the exploding TV story remember the nails flew around the room. The child was probably killed from objects behind him.
Nature abhors a vacuum. Thanks Dr. Malcolm.
Male physics is the science of expansion while female physics is the science of contraction. Don't laugh. Watch the video. We cannot be anything different than our environment. Overunity comes from the collaspe of the magnetic field.
Never get between a mother and her children!

We want your stay here to be a pleasant one.
Thank you for your participation, the management.

--giantkiller.

MrMag

Giantkiller,

Love the topic name!

Played around most of the day on my TPU and still nothing. I still think it is the generators I'm using. I tried putting MOSFETs between the generators and coils with no luck. One thing I did see is that two of the generators are running past the zero voltage and into the negative. Probably no good. I am also still trying to figure out where exactly to measure the output from. By hooking up the windings as Otto has posted really screw up the infeed waveforms which doesn't seem right. I hope someone is still up and around to give me some ideas for tomorrow.

Tim

MrMag

GK,

Nice box. I have an old microwave that is not used and I thought of putting the TPU inside. But I am sure that I will be told that the microwave is running the coil. ;D

giantkiller

I scope at between the top collector and the watt resistor. Do your freqs come out of the drivers?

--giantkiller.