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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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@ moab i realy like that hehehe

seams pretty small works from a low voltage source i will have to get me one of those throw away cams and play around

@gk thank  you

as all can see i wanted to know all aspacts of the unit b4 i could have got hurt i built rings  i hooked up  only my first ring  wich was turbos rind plused with my lite puter had a gold ring on my finger and playing around with that simple ring my whole arm went numb in 2 min or so after that i told myself i would not pluse any more rings till i have my tools 5 weeks and the count down is on but i figure it was best to learn all you can b4 u get hurt playing so that is what im still doing and in coming up with some of my own inventions i learned that the best way to figure things out is to talk about them with as many thinkers as posible and discover the way of the invention  i still dont think im ready to build and operate a tpu i must understand all about it b4 i play with it

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To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Grumpy

Quote from: giantkiller on May 16, 2007, 11:30:19 AM
I have been holding out.

I think everyone does this to some degree.
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I don't believe that the effect is "uncontrollable", and with further understanding, it can be harnessed just like all sources of energy before it.  Look at nuclear power, or even wind an water power - all have dangers.

Your stun gun is probably in the khz range - convert this to pulse wdth and you have:(based on speed of light in vacuum)

1 KHZ = 1 millisecond
10 KHZ = 100 microseconds
1 MHZ = 1 microsecond

Per Tesla:

  • impulses exeeding 0.1 millisecond duration: produced pain and mechanical pressures, objects visibly vibrated and even moved as the force field drove them along, Thin wires, exposed to sudden bursts of the radiant field, exploded into vapor.

    (0.1 ms) 100 microseconds or less: Pain and physical movements ceased

    1.0 microsecond duration: strong physiological heat was sensed.

Now, logic dictates that you want to stay far above the low KHZ frequencies and possibly above 1MHZ if heat is not desired.  Also, since all of the effects have not been documented - others may be encountered.

(SM mentioned that he was eventually able to create thousand of kicks per second - hmm - sounds like KHZ range.

GK - did you see some of the effects listed for "0.1 millisecond duration"?


EDIT - Lenz's law is a "magnetic field phenomenon".  Without it, we would have electric fields propagating and magnifying out of control. 

So, by eleminating curent and it's magnetic field - we eleminate Lenz's law, and with out that element of control...






It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

giantkiller

@Grumpy,
The frequency range was 2 hz to 900khz. Even though the 555 and ring controller doesn't go to 1mhz, the 3 square waves with phase cancellation would be higher. Much higher.
And here is the open pit of grandure: The voltage, current, frequencies, the wattage, the temperature at any part of the TPU, the vibrations, the coil screaming, the neos vibrating, the scope shots were not in any pattern of alignment or compliance with the output of effects I was feeling, seeing, or measuring. Everything seem to be independant although I made adjustments to try to find them. It could've been the damaging effects were subliminally effecting my judgements. Later, Moab had mentioned that certain frequencies can be used in crowd control devices. I sure controlled myself then didn't I? What I had mentioned in the last conference was the sloppy effects of the cheap trimpots and the 555 drift actually added tremendously to the output effectiveness. This equates to terribly even faster rise and fall times with incredibly short on times and increasing the phase shifting and cancellation. And by adding better potentiometers I actually lessened the effectiveness. Effectiveness? What a strange way to label chaotic damage...

I posted that earlier to squelch any headlong rush in competitional damage or prideful abominations.
I have since removed Otto's jumpering from the GK4 and not turned it on since March 2007. My daughter is pregnant and I am executing extreme caution.

--giantkiller. So there you have it. It doesn't get any prettier. Be safe.

Grumpy

Depending on the rates of change of the signals - i.e. rising or falling, and the moment of coincidence, you can get some pretty quick changes in the fields that you would not normaly obtain with slow frequencies.  I posted a nice animated link showing two waves colliding several months ago.

You are still limited by the above and, that being the case, there is more than one way to skin this cat and if you can get there with a better signal source, I would think it would be more controllable than monster mashing signals.

The one big question is: did you get usable power out of the collector?

Don't scap pile that coil yet. 

Do you have anything faster than 1 MHZ (or 1 microsecond) on hand to test with?
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

giantkiller

Quote from: Grumpy on May 16, 2007, 03:18:38 PM
Depending on the rates of change of the signals - i.e. rising or falling, and the moment of coincidence, you can get some pretty quick changes in the fields that you would not normaly obtain with slow frequencies.  I posted a nice animated link showing two waves colliding several months ago.

You are still limited by the above and, that being the case, there is more than one way to skin this cat and if you can get there with a better signal source, I would think it would be more controllable than monster mashing signals.

The one big question is: did you get usable power out of the collector?

Don't scap pile that coil yet. 

Do you have anything faster than 1 MHZ (or 1 microsecond) on hand to test with?

I did not try to get power at that stage. It's too early. Like Einstein said 'It's not the nuclear explosion but the return signal that is phenominally stronger'.
I mounted the GK4 on the preverbial wall. I won't let that rhino charge around the house nare too soon.
I don't have a higher genny. I could phase cancel 500khz, 600khz, 700khz signals to go
higher in a more controlled scenario. Marco's latest coil I duped is my next test. With the smaller 30awg copper collectors I will be able to test more knowing that this unit is fusible. I have that faraday cage for containment also. I live by that. The GKMTC1 has a higher count of 30awg and should display different effects from the higher frequencies.

--giantkiller.