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Overunity Machines Forum



Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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acerzw

Hi,
  Giantkiller that is a great breakthrough it explains most of the observed phenomenon and explains the fluid nature of the RE. I guess some of the other effects, the gyroscope effect etc are probably down to the scalar waves or whatever field is generated in the mobius that causes the RE ions to be created. Since people have stated that other metal objects within range also become charged that also screams IONs. Think of how much energy we are wasting with them escaping. No wonder a lighting strike can result if the unit goes into overdrive!

Since you have now identified that the RE output takes the form of ions in order to maximise the output we need to design a way to contain them in an enclosure around the TPU (if possible or at least limit their movement) and then design a separate collector ring above the mobius that will very efficiently capture the ions and convert them to usable power (if very efficent an enclosure will not be necessary). I assume that it will probably have to be outside the mobius because we do not want to kill of the field in the mobius which presumable is propagated through the ion flux more efficiently?

Anyone got any ideas for an ion collecting ring? a low voltage loop coil perhaps the same size as the bottom mobius ring or maybe you can collect them off the aluminum rings?

Presumably if we configure the ring correctly and convert the charge to usable current we could tap off it a small amount to power the control circuits.

It might also be possible to simplify the design if some of the guys with operational coils can find a good frequency which intereferes with itself in the mobius in a chaotic but out of equilibrium steady state which does not lead to a full conversion event. This would be possible if the two rings of the mobius were the same size and almost placed on top of each other. Perhaps with a frequency which is proportionate to the wave length and a single mobius ring (single loop) length in a manner such that when it goes around the second loop interacts with the top loop . If this works then you could extend the mobius coil to have multiple rings stacked on top of each other like a truck spring, and then have a collector coil around the outside of the same design. You might then have to have a frequency input coil (collector coil) on every other loop. Imagine the amount of RE ions such a configuration might generate.

This should make OU acheivable or very nearly so!

Maybe to avoid problems with terminology we should rename the collectors coils to something like frequency input coils and then call the new coil or ion capture device a collector coil.

Well just throwing the idea out there...

Big bonus also - it's a pretty efficient ionizer, good for people with asthma  ::)
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I have harnessed the cosmic rays and caused them to operate a motive device. Cosmic ray investigation is a subject that is very close to me. I was the first to discover these rays and I naturally feel toward them as I would toward my own flesh and blood. I have advanced a theory of the cosmic rays and at every step of my investigations I have found it completely justified. The attractive features of the cosmic rays is their constancy. They shower down on us throughout the whole 24 hours, and if a plant is developed to use their power it will not require devices for storing energy as would be necessary with devices using wind, tide or sunlight. All of my investigations seem to point to the conclusion that they are small particles, each carrying so small a charge that we are justified in calling them neutrons. They move with great velocity, exceeding that of light. More than 25 years ago I began my efforts to harness the cosmic rays and I can now state that I have succeeded in operating a motive device by means of them. I will tell you in the most general way, the cosmic ray ionizes the air, setting free many charges ions and electrons. These charges are captured in a condenser which is made to discharge through the circuit of the motor. I have hopes of building my motor on a large scale, but circumstances have not been favorable to carrying out my plan.

So, RE is not "ions", but it does set them free.
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giantkiller

With all the TPU types that SM produced we have an obvious collection of dynamic properties and actions. These devices all cause high speed actions against static materials. Nothing new here. But the vibratory property shows a significant acceleration and deceleration of a field of energy that impacts the static material and dislodges that material from its resting place. Again, obvious. But in the operation, the dynamic fields all exhibit broadband emmisions simultaneously and all intraphased. The energy is captured by static material which presents interference and resistance therefore slowing down the emmited fields to match the neccesary dynamics of the conductors. Since the devices are made of copper, we are attaining only a portion of the generated energy spectrum here. There are still a huge amount of losses because in our indrustrial mindsets we believe and have to interface with copper because that is the predominate material we connect electrical items with.
The precession of stone, water, air, gunpowder, oil, copper is our usage legacy of idiocy. We will lay claim to lesser losses in the TPU when we migrate to the environment where the TPU actually resides instead of trying to downward interface a phenomially powerful device to our nethanderal ways.

So we practice keeping the TPU out of phase to prevent runaway? Pretty pathetic losses, eh?

--giantkiller. Another day on the wrong planet... ;)

acerzw

GK,
     I take your point, so in order to harness the ions released by the TPU you think we should use another material? Presumably a natural one, magnetite or something?   :o When you say the environment the TPU is from what exactly do you mean, are you referring to the structure of space/aether where the RE comes from, or is that just a philosophical statement?

Still the fact that the RE releases ions is important and I think the energy collection part of the TPU mechanics needs to be reviewed in light of this, as the ions act like a fluid it is a different set of dynamics (fluid) we are dealing with. How do we collect them efficiently and turn them into usable energy so we don't lose them to the environment and end up charging all the metal objects. Containment may be required, ions should be containable as they are charged. I will do some research on the matter of collecting them. Anyone out there got experience in dealing with them?

Maybe if we achieve full containment or suck them up fast enough and use a strong material or one with less resistance we can let the TPU go to full conversion without calling down lightning from on high, then you can smile like me  ::)

Once we have this sorted out we might get OU. We can then spend as long as we like optimising the front end, RE generation mobius and frequency input coils.

Acerzw

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