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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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EMdevices

I know Grumpy,  LOL,  it's so frustrating, I fight it all the time.    I keep my oscilloscope on DC so I can spot a DC component that might show up and it often does,  it's the damn  60 Hz waveform just starting to rise, and I can only see it if I set the time base very wide, but at the high frequencies I'm working at I can't tell.


So you like the Vortex concepts, yes, the good old vortex.   I hope you realize that the frequency of rotation is dependent on:

1)   Number of poles

2)  Frequency.

I should also say that in this concept,   the frequencies are IDENTICAL.   That's how the 3-phase,2-phase systems work.  I did those simulations in that other thread, which I'm sure you've seen.

So when S.M says turn on first frequency then the second, are they the same?   Not sure.  I belive he told us to use harmonics, and so going by his words alone, I can conclude:

1) The TPU does  NOT use  3-phase or 2-phase setups.   (good luck to Bob Boyce replication group, don't want to discourage anybody)

2) The TPU does NOT use heterodyning principle either (intentionaly but it always occurs)


Point #2 depends on how much SM knows about the device he created or whether he is truthful, but if you take him at his word there seems to be a contradiction between the video and the letters   (video says tune to the earth magnetic field, letters say you create harmonic frequencies and mix, slam them ,whatever)  Those are two separate concepts unless he eliminates the HARMONIC PART.   Then I can say OK, two frequencies such that we can mix and reach the 7.3 Hz Schumann.

EM.

bolt

Alright so we are getting somewhere its a shame this part wasn't concentrated on more a year ago and could already have working tpu that just required taming and controlling which after we done this part is still at least 6 months work. Anyway moving on we now established we can use two frequencies. So now we have 3 coils in or TPU.

Coil one is our IF frequency and we don't really care what this is because we already established it can be anything. However its determined by the characteristics of the coil which lies in front of your eyes. Not mine or anyone else's.  This is a free running oscillator but we build it stable and take all precautions on stability.Lets say this is happy running at 200.00 Kz. Its vital to keep the harmonic content low and the purity of the sine high. This is why valve oscillators make such a wonderful job at this but i would use a mos fet.

Coil number 2 is our BFO and this one is now 7.5 difference to our IF frequncy. The output is now our 7,5 Hz that we actually want. Now if we wind coil 2 exactly the same as coil one and stick the same cap on the end of the coil then they should come close anyway. However we will do everything to this BFO in order to control the phase and amplitude but this comes later this one runs at 207.5Kz The BFO is phase locked and clamped to our 7.5 loop but i come to this later.

Coil 3 is our 7.5 Hz loop antenna except its driven from the output of the above signals which have been mixed. The loop is fractional resonant to the wavelength we want but we drive it from the output of our mixer.  How do we mix it and keep the impedance matching correct? We must use a balun transformer to mix as the loop is extremely low impedance and our signal loads are high impedance. So you see those 2 twinkies sat on the control box of the 800 volt tpu are mixing baluns on a ferrite core. There are two of them one for each frequency.

OK so far so good. So in the words of SM "switching on the first frequency (the IF) and now switching on the second frequncy (the BFO) what happens initially is the BFO is tracking in a range set by the PLL an it hasn't got a clue yet it unlocked. After a few seconds output of the mixers stumble on the mag wave lets say its 7.37684 Hz today. This produces a tiny kick in our feedback coil and now the PLL can see this frequency and instantly begins to lock the BFO to this kick. The magic trick is to keep the output 7.37684 at 90 degrees phase to the incoming kick and as we do this the output grows larger into the loop. Now we take this bigger kick and feed it back into the 7.5 loop keep the phase shifted at 90 degress and we keep doing this till we have full lock and a ton of power.  Too much to write here how it works in great detail but lets say this by adding power to the collector our virtual antenna is no longer 6 inches wide in front of you it now 1000's of feet wide!! In fact it can get so big it will reach out and almost fully couple to the entire wave if given enough chance. We are now generating so much out of phase flux it like putting up huge great sails 1000's feet high and as the mag wave passes over longitudinally we scoop all this and drag into the centre of the TPU coil. It does more than scoop it leaves behind a gapping big hole :) This is an EM cloud and is don't matter if you are talking about light heat magnetic or radio waves you can do this with anything. If you do this with light you can make things completly disappear.

Now we got all this power sucked into the TPU like a vacuum cleaner but we cant make use of it yet without our magnet. The zero point of all this energy in now at the point of the mixer and our loop antenna. So we place a magnet right there at 45 degrees.  But all we done is create an in balance in the global field which is now met in the loop till if we get too much the loop becomes saturated at first and starts getting hot or even explode. The magnet nearfield B field wave will distort the other half of the flux which has been time distorted and come rushing in to balance things out. However we can disturb this inrush by the magnet and bend it which creates an electron river to flow around the coil and its this electron flow which is no longer magnetic its been transposed to electrons or a high current. We will never convert all nor  do we need too in fact very little is converted to an electrical current the rest is losses in heat and self correction of the inbalance yet in practical terms the power is limitless and depends on size and Q of the coils.

There bits to be worked out like feedback and coupling etc but look the workmanship of  small TPU is not exactly military spec. Bundles of wire bits of tape and blobs of glue and it still worked. So all that is on the little PCB on the side of the tpu are two oscillators and one PLL chip thats it. Its start by a tiny battery of course but as soon as the tpu is running a power winding tap powers the controller and take over.

However to work out the feedback and control loops sig gens and class A amps will help a lot to see whats happening but the final build is much more simple. But as SM stated if your oscillators drift too much or the PLL cant lock you wont get the first kick and nothing will happen.

Now do as your told. Uncle SM said build the controller in the middle of the tpu. They wont work built to one side so you might as well go for the full monte and make the 800 volt tpu and build everything in the centre. Also becuase the coils are larger they will be more stable and the first pulse is MUCH more likely to be seen compared to the 4 inch tpu.

Grumpy

Look at all of the Schumann resonances and harmonics.  Then consider that some harmonics may be higher than the fundamental - depending on what the hell is going on at the frequency.  So, SM may be working off 7.8 Hz indirectly.

When did SM first start talking about harmonics?  About a year ago SM provided this:

QuoteIt is really great to see more "hands on" activity here. It may be relevant to convey the importance of the relationship
between the resonances/wire lengths of the control/collector coils. I think of it a a rotational magnetic reciever. Some of
the tests that I have carried on the coiols that have visible control windings indicate frequencies in the megahertz range
which would make pc scopes un usable ...I could be wrong...we will see. We are Searching for a rotational Kicking
field.that can be accelerated by applying harmonics This could take a while. It is unconventional. Sharing results..even
failures will help every body. Sharing limitations will slow everybody down. It would be great if more those who seem to
have a clear understanding would do some winding to confirm their expectations. Perhaps Luck will come into it I
remember a fellow who said "The more I work and act the more luck I seem to get"

He also provided this:

QuoteAfter rereading my letters to you I became aware that in fact I have already sent you enough information to duplicate my power units.

Read the attached pdf of SM's letters - courtesy of gn0sis.com:
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

EMdevices

@bolt
Quote....It does more than scoop it leaves behind a gapping big hole  This is an EM cloud and is don't matter if you are talking about light heat magnetic or radio waves you can do this with anything.

So you are talking about the effective antenna aperture that gets widened when in resonance, that's your EM cloud.  I see.   Grumpy, GK and others call it a vortex   :)


Did you see my previous post?   SM said the frequencies were HARMONICS OF EACH OTHER.    That's what I'm  talking about, this heterodyning theory falls on that "clue" if it is a truthful clue.

Welcome to the TPU  madness, what's what and what's not, sooner or later you'll go crazy like the rest of us and babble uncontrolably.  LOL   :)

EM

P.S.  Grumpy I'm not sure that first paragraph you quoted is SM talking, I think it's Mannix, the clue is:  "...We are Searching for a rotational Kicking field.that can be accelerated by applying harmonics ..."   SM is not searching anylonger  LOL :)

bolt

yes the regen is one hell of a smart design.  But also you can see how easily that TV exploded in the story. It only needed to produce a powerful 7.5Hz transmitter and its self collecting with no limits!