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Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?

Started by TriKri, March 29, 2021, 06:27:50 PM

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bistander

Quote from: partzman on March 31, 2021, 03:28:43 PM
Actually, this is what THEY would have us believe!  OU is possible without violation of the laws of thermodynamics as we shall see sometime before the remainder of this year is complete.

Of course energy conversion can result in apparent free energy (solar) but true FE is possible!

Regards,
Pm

How many times have we heard that?
bi

NdaClouDzzz

Quote from: stivep on March 31, 2021, 12:15:18 PM
quote: It is a problem  with semantics :
Overunity  doesn't exist and will never exist.
If you call it  FE  Free energy than  that term  is describing deice that used   energy that is free of charge. like solar , wind,
etc..
So if energy that is taken to conversion is converted into electricity than that energy  after initial cost of the  conversion device is free.
Wesley

Yep!
OverUnity implies a closed system. It goes against reasoning to think that you can take a 1 gallon jug of water and pour out more than one gallon of water.
There are clearly many OPEN systems that allow you to get more out of a system than what YOU put in, such as the well-known solar and wind generators. But when we talk of OPEN systems, are we really talking about OU? I think not. Why? Because the energy coming in from an open system is separate from what YOU put in, and is thus not part of the original input energy consideration. Yes, semantics!
Bottom line is that the establishment has created their own vocabulary to throw off would-be free-energy enthusiasts. Their goal is to make people think that free-energy is impossible, when in fact we see it all of the time. Take for example a sail boat. Far more energy is captured and transformed into power by the sail and boat than was used by the sailor to hoist the sail. In the free-energy world, this is what we are really trying to replicate. Don Smith's Ambient Energy Generator does just that. A small amount of electrons (the sailor) is used to create a large voltage (the sail) which attracts a large amount of electrons from earth ground (wind) that gets transformed into energy/power far exceeding that used to start the process. The amount of electrons coming from ground are equal to the voltage used to attract them, not the small amount of electrons used to create the voltage. Just like the amount of wind captured by the sail is equal to the sail size, not the energy used by the sailor to hoist the sail.
So ignoring the establishments RED HERRING language like overunity, etc, should be the first step in any free-energy enthusiasts journey!

stivep

Dear fellow researchers.
Few Myths Debunked.
As much as you and I will like to see overunity or ..."something for nothing"...
-we need to understand that :
-physics is based on models.

________________________________
The "Holy Grail" of modern physics is reality based on models.
Physics  doesn't recognize gods, miraculous powers that provide happiness, eternal youth or sustenance in infinite abundance...
Physics doesn't deal with  devils, , angels, politics, racial, gender inequality, sexual orientation... or any of such stories.
Physics doesn't have soul, feelings, emotions, or such...
Physics is one of  sciences..
Darwin  proved  that we are animals belonging to mammals  and that is  model that was never  proven otherwise-
(in circumstances different from those present or considered)
Einstein proved  his theory of relativity and  all progress in its physical  form  started from there.
Proof  is  an evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.
in physics consequent  proven followup of the theory creates model that  becomes stronger with time as is exercised by number of other  researchers.
If model  becomes outdated or inconvenient based on reality  of the given present time we change it for the new one..
but  history of moderns science doesn't  see such events much  yet.
___________________________________________

As much as you may disagree with my statement  physics doesn't care much...

Quote from: lancaIV on March 31, 2021, 03:46:03 PM
Who backed this expression ' overunity' ?
'free energy' is a Physics/Chemistry official and used expression/term !


Overunity          -  doesn't exist  and will never exist and is laughable as a term.
Perpetual Motion-  is not important to us if was ever  in existence .. it is like spending 1 dollar to gain 1 dollar...
Free Energy       -  exist but  for us this wording is just an abbreviation and has nothing  to do with  mentioned by lancaIV chemistry descriptor.



but for us  to do not get lost in the nonsense - we need  some sort of abbreviation for.. what we do.
and we use word: FREE ENERGY.. as we can prove that  energy can be free to us
But  of course ,that energy must have its  own origin too.
and all of it is  because of  the LAW: Energy can't be created nor destroyed..

Wesley

AlienGrey

Free energy costs to produce so  how is it free ?

The easiest way to increase yield is to change an unstable energy into it's unstable state

With out giving an idea away it's already been done, you need to think how you can do just that

the twist is you already have it so again stop thinking like Marconi and think more like Tesla

PS The Tesla car is a joke some where along the line you have to burn stuff to run the electric car
or show me a car that's American and self charging !

stivep


Dear fellow researchers.
Few Myths Debunked.
As much as you and I will like to see overunity or ..."something for nothing"...
-we need to understand that :
-physics is based on models.

________________________________
The "Holy Grail" of modern physics is reality based on models.
Physics  doesn't recognize gods, miraculous powers that provide happiness, eternal youth or sustenance in infinite abundance...
Physics doesn't deal with  devils, , angels, politics, racial, gender inequality, sexual orientation... or any of such stories.
Physics doesn't have soul, feelings, emotions, or such...
Physics is one of  sciences..
Darwin  proved  that we are animals belonging to mammals  and that is  model that was never  proven otherwise-
(in circumstances different from those present or considered)
Einstein proved  his theory of relativity and  all progress in its physical  form  started from there.
Proof  is  an evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.
in physics consequent  proven followup of the theory creates model that  becomes stronger with time as is exercised by number of other  researchers.
If model  becomes outdated or inconvenient based on reality  of the given present time we change it for the new one..
but  history of moderns science doesn't  see such events much  yet.
___________________________________________

As much as you may disagree with my statement  physics doesn't care much...


Overunity          -  doesn't exist  and will never exist and is laughable as a term.
Perpetual Motion-  is not important to us if was ever  in existence .. it is like spending 1 dollar to gain 1 dollar...
Free Energy       -  exist but  for us this wording is just an abbreviation and has nothing  to do with  mentioned by lancaIV chemistry descriptor.



but for us  to do not get lost in the nonsense - we need  some sort of abbreviation for.. what we do.
and we use word: FREE ENERGY.. as we can prove that  energy can be free to us
But  of course ,that energy must have its  own origin too.
and all of it is  because of  the LAW: Energy can't be created nor destroyed..

Wesley