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Overunity Machines Forum



Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?

Started by TriKri, March 29, 2021, 06:27:50 PM

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ramset

Cloxxi
I believe the addendum on oxygen levels was just a sidebar on another test
( putting Lithium Nitrate directly into fuel ..and it's effects on emissions?)


The meat of the claim makes enuff sense to replicate
As we had another member here who wrote of lithium in water ( emulsion with fuel)
And had done dynamometer testing on 35kw genset (up-to 75% water emulsion )


Lanca
Thanks for info
Still need a chemist to assist
Also yes plenty sources for lithium nitrate
It just seems a controlled substance ( paperwork Lab etc etc)







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Cloxxki

In many such hobby experiments I was less than impressed with the data collection on the control. IMO the control experiment needs to really explore the limits of what can reasonably achieved with a unit of a given and standardized fuel.
Simply bruning of Lithium is a "hot" item these days, the energy to be gotten from that would of course need to be accounted for.
In a good test the engine would be run dry, fuel line drained. Then be run from a small of which the last drop van be sucked up. A reasonably steep hill being climbed at not too high speeds makes for a reliable experiment, wind and rain won't affect driving range on that little bottle of fuel much. Vehicle with good cruise control, obviously. Course that allows holding a constant pace even through bends. Record all ambient temp, air pressure and humidity, obvs.

lancaIV

A similar trial was the ' Acetone/Naphtalene to fuel ' hype 15 years before,with similar,compareable,emission kind change  effect :

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2215098615302469
Btw: 2006 lead and sulphur contente in gasoline ?
LiNO3 as anode material effect ( surface) in Lithium-Sulphur batteries ?

But I mean somebody wants an ' internal fusion chamber '-engine conversion ?! By LiNO3 addition.
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onepower

Ramset
QuoteNot looking to explore other chemisty or develop a test lab .
Just checking the actual very simple claim ( lithium nitrate at 20 Ppm in water... injected at 500 psi )

I may have found an answer and it took all of 20 minutes but it means nothing if people don't understand logic, reason and how to solve problems.

So you said someone added lithium nitrate at 20 Ppm in water to an engine to increase efficiency.

Then I thought what are all the reactions which could happen within a combustion space but more so what is the simplest answer most would tend to miss?. The easy answer and the first thing which came to mind is a reaction with the engine itself. So I then thought, what is an engine made of and the most common materials are steel and aluminum. Since I'm not a chemist or physicist the obvious solution is to ask someone or thankfully an AI the question at hand.

So I asked ChatGPT the following questions...
1)can lithium nitrate react with aluminum, water to produce oxygen at high temperatures?.

QuoteYes, lithium nitrate (LiNO3) can react with aluminum (Al) and water (H2O) at high temperatures to produce oxygen gas (O2). This type of reaction is a variation of the thermite reaction and involves the reduction of nitrate ions (NO3-) by aluminum

Interesting but what about steel?
2)Can lithium nitrate react with steel, water to produce oxygen at high temperatures?.

QuoteLithium nitrate (LiNO3) can potentially react with steel and water at high temperatures to produce oxygen gas (O2), similar to the reaction with aluminum. However, the specific reaction between lithium nitrate and steel would depend on the composition of the steel and the conditions under which the reaction takes place.

Nice, and the AI goes onto claim...
QuoteJust like with the previous reactions, this reaction can be highly exothermic and may release heat and gases.

Interesting, so now the easy explanation could be an exothermic reaction with the engine metals producing not only heat and the expansion of the air charge within the engine but also extra gasses ie.offgassing producing even more pressure and force on the piston thus power.

So how did I find an easy explanation many people could spend decades wasting there time trying to figure out?. I'm only interested in finding real answers using logic and reason and the first question I always ask is... what is the most obvious solution most other people would miss?. Not the best answer, not an answer in line with any believes, narratives or opinions I may hold. Understand how people think and the things 99% of them would probably overlook and this is now the direction I would proceed.

In this respect, I find AI's like ChatGPT groundbreaking. Ask a question and you shall receive. It may not be the answer we wanted but it's more likely the answer which was needed.

I'm not sure why everyone has to make FE so difficult.

Here is one solution which Richard Feynman pointed out. One would think that if we used logic and reason all the answers we want would magically appear and all would be know. So why isn't this the case?, I mean were no dummies so what's the problem?. As Feynman pointed out it has nothing to do with "what" we think but "how" we think. The "what" is always changing as we learn new things replacing the old things. However how we think determines the new things we learn which would replace the old things. The "how we think" in order to solve problems is the way forward in my opinion.

AC





lancaIV

' the key to the whole process ' !
That more oxygen as emission  is produced,by less CO2,but more C6 is nothing in chemical maths special !
But ' whole process' the claimed engine power output,mechanical-kinetical,the ' key of output power increase '-search !
Chemical torque/thrust !
Internal/external transmutation /(internal/external molecular/atomar-nuclear energy)

http://quanthomme.free.fr/energieencore/carnet17.htm
The fuel R&D related claims :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Arie+de+geus&IN=&CPC=&IC=

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PESWiki  Papp- engine

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