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Another boring Free Energy Debate

Started by onepower, August 28, 2021, 03:30:46 PM

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onepower

Companies like Tesla are for long term investors who recognized electric vehicles are the future. It's also a way to put our money where our mouth is and support clean energy systems. I pulled all my investments in fossil fuels for this reason.

The system is rigged and most inventors are sought out by head hunters hoping to gag them through contracts/NDA's. If this doesn't work then as a last resort there just bought out.

It's the American way to break or buy out the competition to stop innovation and maximize profit. So now many companies exist only to hope they get bought out. In this respect pure capitalism  is moving towards socialism with a few corporations owning everything.  We will soon see people becoming trillionares while most remain poor if this continues.

As a few smart billionaires put it, this cannot be sustained and will only result in economic collapse and civil war. Russia is a good example and it's turned into a cesspool of corruption and greed.

Interesting times ahead...

Regards
AC


Floor

@ onepower

I vaguely remember a post some where,  that described the efficiency or
rather the inefficiency of the North American electric power distribution grid.

Was that one of your posts ?
If so do you remember what topic it was in ?

onepower

Floor
QuoteI vaguely remember a post some where,  that described the efficiency or
rather the inefficiency of the North American electric power distribution grid.

Was that one of your posts ?
If so do you remember what topic it was in ?

It's pretty easy to do the calculations...

Most power generating stations here in Canada are gas fired boiler/steam turbines or gas turbines with waste heat boilers. I won't even get into coal fired stations because there a joke. So the a boiler could run 80% efficiency and the steam turbine 80% and a gas turbine/waste heat boiler could run near the same. So we have lost at least 20% off the top and we could easily lose another 20% on the generator side.

Now were looking at line or transmission losses over hundreds of miles which is basically ohms law. Then we need to step down the HV to 600/480/240/120 volts through multiple transformers and we know all about those losses near 10 to 20% on each step. It's actually kind of amazing any energy actually reaches our house considering the losses.

Other regions like Europe solved this problem by using remote power generation, ie. combine heat and power. That is power generation near the consumer so they can utilize both the power and waste heat from the generators. Now were looking at upwards of 80% efficiency while we generally eject all the waste heat to a river or lake and it's wasted.

This is why CHP, combined heat and power near the consumer will always win. So with solar or free energy we not only produce cheap, clean power but also eliminate all the waste heat, transformer and line losses which are the bulk of the losses.

Now we could consider all those millions of people who lost power because of wildfires, hurricanes, floods ie. climate change and brown outs for lack of generation capacity in severe heat. I get it, we need power, however the current power transmission scheme is unworkable. Everyone in the industry like myself is in panic mode because demand is greater than supply and all these transmission systems are ancient. Many of the components in these systems are older than I am and I'm no spring chicken at 50+, lol

Look at your power bill, in many cases the line maintenance/administration costs are three times the actual cost of the energy provided. The actual energy is still relatively cheap to produce here in Canada with 80% hydro power however the external costs are rising ie. line maintenance/losses. This is the killer not so much generation efficiency which is pulling there own weight so far as new technology is concerned.

It's easy to start pointing fingers however the fact is most people in the energy industry are doing the best they can with what they have to work with. The old generation system is going to hell in a handbasket and most have no idea how we can make a transition to new technology. This is uncharted territory and we have never seen this kind of transition in our lifetime.

My greatest worry is what I know of energy technology, if we try to transition too FE to fast there will be trillions of dollars of stranded assets, untold bankruptcies effecting the economy which will ultimately effect tens of millions of jobs. These are real people just trying to make a living like you and myself who deserve consideration. Free energy is easy, but how do we make the transition to it?... in this respect I am lacking.

Regards
AC





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