Maybe some NEW info?

[onepower]

Smoky2
I read about this effect a couple years ago but never got around to testing it...
https://phys.org/news/2012-03-efficiency.html
LED's efficiency exceeds 100%

(PhysOrg.com) -- For the first time, researchers have demonstrated that an LED can emit more optical power than the electrical power it consumes. Although scientifically intriguing, the results won't immediately result in ultra-efficient commercial LEDs since the demonstration works only for LEDs with very low input power that produce very small amounts of light.

In their experiments, the researchers reduced the LED's input power to just 30 picowatts and measured an output of 69 picowatts of light - an efficiency of 230%.

I believe this effect may relate to the fact that an LED can generate a voltage when exposed to light like a solar cell. It is a PN junction similar to a solar cell or photodetector. Thus under some operating conditions the LED could dissipate and generate energy in the same instance.

Strange isn't it, many still believe COP>1 is impossible and yet here we have some credible proof it isn't. Just as interesting is this claim...

This light-emitting process cools the LED slightly, making it operate similar to a thermoelectric cooler. Although the cooling is insufficient to provide practical cooling at room temperature, it could potentially be used for designing lights that don't generate heat.

Most FE researchers have heard of many different devices becoming cooler during operation contrary to the hallowed law of entropy. Here we have more evidence to suggest a process can have a COP>1 and produce cooling corroborating past claims. Apparently COP>1 isn't so difficult after all...

Regards
AC

[sm0ky2]

I would like to order some of these.  Can you give us the specifics ?

     floor

Found these on Amazon from China


https://youtu.be/YXSCmKNQGA4

[sm0ky2]

Smoky2
I read about this effect a couple years ago but never got around to testing it...
https://phys.org/news/2012-03-efficiency.html
LED's efficiency exceeds 100%

I believe this effect may relate to the fact that an LED can generate a voltage when exposed to light like a solar cell. It is a PN junction similar to a solar cell or photodetector. Thus under some operating conditions the LED could dissipate and generate energy in the same instance.

Strange isn't it, many still believe COP>1 is impossible and yet here we have some credible proof it isn't. Just as interesting is this claim...

Most FE researchers have heard of many different devices becoming cooler during operation contrary to the hallowed law of entropy. Here we have more evidence to suggest a process can have a COP>1 and produce cooling corroborating past claims. Apparently COP>1 isn't so difficult after all...

Regards
AC

Thank you for this!
This paper sort of explains some of what i was observing
Until i read that, i almost felt silly suggesting that the LEDs could be overunity
But that IS the apparent observation

[Floor]

Gracias y Gracias

[sm0ky2]

It might be worth exploring.
The same technology that makes those superbright led's
Also is contained within those yellow square ones of higher power
And from what i can tell,
The LED 'produces' a voltage close to it's nominal rating.
In my case was 2V, Nigel said his were 3v in one of the early videos