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Overunity Machines Forum



Feeding Hydrogen into engine tips !

Started by hartiberlin, January 19, 2007, 09:31:31 AM

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Jonny Q

   I think the best bet while running a HHO gasoline mix to inject the HHO into the intake. Reasons being is, HHO being in a gaseous state mixes easier with other gases(in this case, Oxygen) where as it doesn't mix so easily with a liquid and could cause pockets of HHO resulting in a unstable burn where one burn has more or less HHO or gasoline than another burn. Also I'm pretty sure that no HHO cell produces more pressure than any vehicles fuel pump so if your try injecting the HHO into the gas line between the pump and injector rails your probably going to get more gasoline in your HHO line than HHO in your engine.
   I believe fuel pumps run upwards of 55psi and trying to run a hydrogen cell that high is suicide making injecting HHO into the intake your most reliable, safest and therefore your best bet. probably the same for trying to run straight HHO and no gasoline. unless you could retrofit the current injectors to inject HHO instead, but even still i think you'd see better performance from the vacuum of your intake which is suppose to help your cell create more HHO in return.

So if i understood correctly...people have been running straight HHO (no gasoline) into there engines with no need to replace parts with stainless steel?? even exhaust?? i am going to have nightmares once i try gettin my engine to run on straight HHO, i can see myself prying off the head and seeing nothing but rust. anyone know of a site where they have documented fairly extensive tests with both HHO/gasoline mixes and straight HHO?

vdubdipr

i think, the easiest mothod to prevent rust, instead of coating your engine internals with ceramic meterial, witch would be expensive, maybe we could switch back to gasoline for the last couple of minutes to dry everything up.... instead of having a "turbo timer" that runs the engine too cool off after the car is shut off maybe we could have a hydrogen timer to run the car on gas for a pre detemined amount of time to eleviate any concerns with rust... what???
thats just what i think...

joemumu

Hello all,

I have been searching the net for a calculation I am trying to make.  I have found some calculators, but I would like for someone to verify the numbers.  I hope someone can help.
I am trying to get how many liters/minute of gas come out of a pipe with .062 diameter inches at 5 PSI.  I'm not concerned with the length of the pipe or the smoothness of the walls.  I'm just looking for the volume one could expect out of this setup.

I didn't know where else to put this question.

Thank you

vdubdipr

put one hose in a bucket of water under a 2 liter bottle filled with water, then use a stop watch to see how long it takes
thats just what i think...

joemumu

@vdubdipr

Yes I understand how to measure HHO output as you described.  I am looking for a validation of the amount that should be produced at 5 PSI described in my previous post.  I suppose I should tell you why this is important to me.  A video I saw on youtube showed a 5 HP engine idling on straight hydrogen supplied from a tank.  The narrator commented that the gas was fed into the engine directly into the intake (there was no carburetor).  There was 5 PSI coming out of the end of the feed tube which had been reduced at the end to .062 diameter.  This is a good benchmark for knowing how much gas needs to be produced to run an engine.

Thank you