Permanent magnet assisted motor coil designs

[captainpecan]

I'm getting a little further. It looks a bit horrible as I am basically using junk reused parts. But you can now get a better idea of my design. Interestingly enough, a spin by hand generates over 7 volts no load. Just seeing what was happening and playing a bit. The magnets are all facing like poles so it is interesting how much voltage is still created from the inductance change of the magnets in front of the core. It will be interesting see the effects on the current draw when I get a circuit hooked up this weekend and get it running. Time to have a little fun and learn some stuff! To my knowledge, nobody has ever tried this design and using both sides of the electropermanent magnet against like pole magnets. Ignore the terrible craftsmanship, lol...

[Floor]

@floor,
I do need to do a bit of house keeping in here. But I guess I'm not sure how to do it. I don't have the permissions to delete anything, so I thought maybe I would just copy into you dust bin but I can't seem to post there. So I guess I really don't know how to do it after all. Can you give some tips please. Thank you.

Yes.

While doing some house keeping of my own, I inadvertently locked the dust bin.  It's not
supposed to be locked / sorry.

This process is new and not at all well tested.

1. Copy  items to dust bin. 

Attachments are a pain, they do not copy / must be moved to your own
computer and then reattached to a post in the dust bin.

Good ordering in regard to which is attached to what does not matter there.

The whole affair is a courtesy any way / for the record kind of thing
and its is all your own call. 

2. Post in your topic.  Floor please delete messages x, y. z...
                         example this very message is
https://overunity.com/19040/permanent-magnet-assisted-motor-coil-designs/msg564032/#msg564032
              and
Floor please delete messaage
https://overunity.com/19040/permanent-magnet-assisted-motor-coil-designs/msg564032/#msg564032

Thanks for your patience.
                  floor

P.S.
    There is another method for you to move attachments.  It's simpler
I'm not very practiced at it yet and don't feel confident in explaining it.


1. Go to O.U.. com  / login
2. Start a reply in the "Floors dust bin" paste there ...
3. Open a second browser and goto O.U..com  (you are already loged in)
4 Navigate to the Jpg. or png. or so on... that you want to copy,
                             Right click on it and select copy.
5.Switch to the other browser that is looking in the "Floors dust bin"
6. Below attach: click browse
7. Right click then select paste.
8. Change the name of the file you just pasted, else it has only a file type or extension.
                                      Right click on it then select rename.
9. left click on the renamed file to highlight it
10. Left click on "open"

             Again, the whole affair of moving a post, is a courtesy any way / for the record
             kind of thing and its is all your own call. 

[jimbo]

I'm getting closer to posting the videos not yet but soon .

[kolbacict]

 you suppose that shorting the winding around a permanent magnet will break the symmetry of the approach and removal forces of another magnet ?  After all, closing the coil leads by contacts does not require any energy consumption. Isn't it ? Perhaps there is something in this.

[gyulasun]

I'm getting a little further. It looks a bit horrible as I am basically using junk reused parts. But you can now get a better idea of my design. Interestingly enough, a spin by hand generates over 7 volts no load. Just seeing what was happening and playing a bit. The magnets are all facing like poles so it is interesting how much voltage is still created from the inductance change of the magnets in front of the core. It will be interesting see the effects on the current draw when I get a circuit hooked up this weekend and get it running. Time to have a little fun and learn some stuff! To my knowledge, nobody has ever tried this design and using both sides of the electropermanent magnet against like pole magnets. Ignore the terrible craftsmanship, lol...

Hi captainpecan, 

Using junk reused parts is perfect for experimenting and overall cost may remain low. And no problem with your craftmanship at all.   

Would like to understand how you meant the process I put in bold above?  i.e.  if the magnetic poles of the electropermanent magnet (epm) appear at its top and bottom ends when you switch the coil on, say N at the top and S at the bottom, then one rotor magnet would repel one pole of the epm (say the top one) while the other rotor magnet would attract the other (i.e. the bottom) pole of the epm simultaneously.  Is this how you meant?   

EDIT:  Thinking this over again, you mentioned the magnets are all facing like poles that are embedded in the two rotors) and I connected this to the electropermanent magnet which has unlike poles at its ends.
BUT then, to change the attract force to be a repel force, you can flip one of the embedded magnets to have its like pole face the also like pole of the electropermanent magnet, so there will be no problem in this respect. 
Is this ok?

Thanks, 
Gyula