HHO projects

[onepower]

H20power

The problem with adding hho to today's modern day cars is you have to tell the computer just what it is you are doing to the car.

My father used a programmable ICE computer on his EA81 Subaru engine conversion for aviation. On home built aircraft they often have to convert everything over to aircraft standards/operating conditions. He could literally setup every parameter and all the sensor/operating curves on a laptop.

A while back I was programming an Arduino with interrupts for use on a small Combined Heat and power unit. It worked well enough using an optical sensor for ignition timing and servos managing the separate fuel and air flows. Not optimal but it worked better than I expected.

A friend also convinced me to design a scooter CDI/fuel injection unit. Apparently there's a big demand for after market systems in the Philippines and other Asian markets. Never had the time to follow through but it was an interesting project. So it is doable but like everything it takes a great deal of time to design and test. Everything has to be the hard way, lol.

Regards
AC

[h20power]

H20power
My father used a programmable ICE computer on his EA81 Subaru engine conversion for aviation. On home built aircraft they often have to convert everything over to aircraft standards/operating conditions. He could literally setup every parameter and all the sensor/operating curves on a laptop.

A while back I was programming an Arduino with interrupts for use on a small Combined Heat and power unit. It worked well enough using an optical sensor for ignition timing and servos managing the separate fuel and air flows. Not optimal but it worked better than I expected.

A friend also convinced me to design a scooter CDI/fuel injection unit. Apparently there's a big demand for after market systems in the Philippines and other Asian markets. Never had the time to follow through but it was an interesting project. So it is doable but like everything it takes a great deal of time to design and test. Everything has to be the hard way, lol.

Regards
AC

Even with Meyer's technology I must get the machine that will allow me to reprogram my car before I can convert it to run on the technology. I will have to make another EGR system as the one's the come with the car aren't fast enough to keep up with the changes as in Meyer's technology the EGR is now being used to adjust the burn rate of hydrogen and keep it where you want it to be at all times. I find most people didn't know about Bob Boyce's Toyota getting worse fuel mileage after the car's computer went to reset everything as that story really isn't told.


I watch people add those devices to their cars all the time and then when it doesn't work as planned join all the Naysayers going against this technology which most of them have no idea that the world already runs on hydrogen as they aren't smart enough to realize that what's burning in the gasoline they put in their tanks is hydrogen. Meyer's technology allows us to switch the source of hydrogen away from fossil fuels to just plain water. But even as good as I am even I must learn how to implement the technology into today's cars. Being a mechanic for over 30 years does give me an edge but just an bit.


No mater what is done to todays cars the computer that was put in to manage them must be told just what it is you are doing to them to make the car run it's best be it just water injection, hho, or a complete hydrogen system like that which Stanley Meyer was going to bring out. But the folks need to learn that the world already runs on hydrogen as our educational system have clearly failed at teaching everyone that.


I think I have to go to the next city to find a dyno machine I can use while I convert my SUV to run on Meyer's technology. I'm not sure of the cost but I already know if I am to map the full engines performance it must be done on a engine dyno. I am quite interested in seeing just what the Gas Processor's effects is on a engine as I don't know of anyone that has tested that device before.


Well, I think once people read what I have had to say they will now know there is a lot that goes into getting a vehicles engine to run correctly with todays modern computer systems be it a car, truck, plane, train, ship, or even a motorbike. As it's not enough to get the technologies up and running but knowing how to go about implementing these technology into our lives as we go about trying to phase out fossil fuel use.


Shalom,
Edward

[onepower]

On a practical working HHO setup...

As usual Nikola Tesla was many decades ahead of his time as an engineer/inventor and most still haven't caught up to him today. As Tesla claimed, a hybrid ICE generator to AC motor system will always win.

This is true because the ICE can easily be tuned to run at it's sweet spot at a constant RPM for maximum efficiency. The ICE generator charges a battery bank which then drives a high efficiency AC motor. This also allows for regenerative braking adding a 30% bump in efficiency. As well the ICE only needs to be sized to match the lower power needed for highway driving.

In essence it's a 100% electric vehicle with a high efficiency standby ICE generator.

So the ICE can be undersized at around 40-60 hp and run at a constant power level for max efficiency. For example a modern 40 to 60 hp four stroke water cooled snowmobile engine is under 100lb and occupies maybe 1.5 cubic feet. It has a small footprint, minimal electronics and could easily be adapted to an HHO system. Then we build a universal ICE/generator package which can be retrofitted into any vehicle and were good to go.

Most cannot see the real benefits of this system however as an Engineer I think it's obvious...
1)It's light weight, compact and super efficient.
2)The ICE only has to be setup and tuned to one RPM/power level. The ICE comes on and runs up to it's sweet spot and stays there running the generator. There are no fuel/air curves, no variable HHO curves, no variable timing and it only requires one optimized setting. It's a no brainer...

This is why Nikola Tesla will always be "The Man" because he understood all this stuff 70 years ago much better than 99% of people today.

AC

[h20power]

On a practical working HHO setup...

As usual Nikola Tesla was many decades ahead of his time as an engineer/inventor and most still haven't caught up to him today. As Tesla claimed, a hybrid ICE generator to AC motor system will always win.

This is true because the ICE can easily be tuned to run at it's sweet spot at a constant RPM for maximum efficiency. The ICE generator charges a battery bank which then drives a high efficiency AC motor. This also allows for regenerative braking adding a 30% bump in efficiency. As well the ICE only needs to be sized to match the lower power needed for highway driving.

In essence it's a 100% electric vehicle with a high efficiency standby ICE generator.

So the ICE can be undersized at around 40-60 hp and run at a constant power level for max efficiency. For example a modern 40 to 60 hp four stroke water cooled snowmobile engine is under 100lb and occupies maybe 1.5 cubic feet. It has a small footprint, minimal electronics and could easily be adapted to an HHO system. Then we build a universal ICE/generator package which can be retrofitted into any vehicle and were good to go.

Most cannot see the real benefits of this system however as an Engineer I think it's obvious...
1)It's light weight, compact and super efficient.
2)The ICE only has to be setup and tuned to one RPM/power level. The ICE comes on and runs up to it's sweet spot and stays there running the generator. There are no fuel/air curves, no variable HHO curves, no variable timing and it only requires one optimized setting. It's a no brainer...

This is why Nikola Tesla will always be "The Man" because he understood all this stuff 70 years ago much better than 99% of people today.

AC

I'm a bit different in my approach to all of this as I have over 30 years of experience as a mechanic. While I'm not going to tell anyone what I am planning lets just say there is a engine that was built a long time ago that is well suited to this technology. The engine has very few moving parts, about the same as Tesla cars do, plus they have a small footprint to boot. Add this experience I have to all the science I picked up in college and it's no wonder I solved exactly how the water for fuel technology works scientifically. It's been a long journey where I had to spend quite a bit of money while making use of the scientific method to get at the science behind this technology.
I still find it puzzling when people go out of their way to get in contact with me expecting me to just hand all I know about the technology over to them free of charge. The only reason I shared the science behind the technology was due to a promise I made many years ago stating I would do so if I got at it as I am a man of my word. I find it sad to see so many have tossed in the towel on this technology but I know the reason why they kinda had to do so as they were just in full out copy mode and could care less about actually learning just how the technology worked. I'd watch folks working on this technology arguing over who copied the technology better than the other and would think to myself what if there was a mistake made in what they were all copying? Anyway I chose to take the long way around through better understanding as copying something not knowing how it worked fully just sounded foolish to me.


Yeah Nikola Tesla was a man ahead of his time but this technology is even better as it allows us to be apart of the earth's water cycle. I honestly do not see an equal to this technology as to it's full capabilities as anything that is currently running on fossil fuels right now can be converted to running on this technology. I find that in general people don't seem to understand the world already runs on hydrogen and I am not talking about just what man uses it for. Our problem is the source of the hydrogen we choose to use as it's dirty. Using this technology will allow us to ditch fossil fuels for good. The technology powers planes, trains, forklifts, cars & trucks, and many more things as it's a one shop fits all type of technology.


I find that most western nations general population have no idea how bad battery powered things are for our environment and those that do seem to know just don't seem to care about the damage they are doing to someone else's home on the planet: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipOeH7GW0M8&t=7s[/size]


It's hard to watch that video as it kinda tears me up but it just goes to show all the push for an EV switch over from fossil fuels is not a good idea. Anyway with Capitalism it's just like Meyer says in that the cheapest will win out in the end and I am fairly certain that this technology will be the cheapest with me behind the wheel, but I welcome the competition just as long as it's moves to solve our climate change problems.


Shalom,
Edward

[onepower]

H2Opower

Yeah Nikola Tesla was a man ahead of his time but this technology is even better as it allows us to be apart of the earth's water cycle. I honestly do not see an equal to this technology as to it's full capabilities as anything that is currently running on fossil fuels right now can be converted to running on this technology. I find that in general people don't seem to understand the world already runs on hydrogen and I am not talking about just what man uses it for.

Very good points, as you say many don't understand that when burning fossil fuels or hydrocarbons (HxCy) the hydrogen is the energy source and the carbon basically inert. For example, a fuel cell reforms a hydrocarbon discarding the carbon and using only the hydrogen in the energy conversion process. So the carbon is basically useless and unwanted similar to nitrogen in the combustion process. So yes, the world quite literally does run on hydrogen.

I find that most western nations general population have no idea how bad battery powered things are for our environment and those that do seem to know just don't seem to care about the damage they are doing to someone else's home on the planet: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipOeH7GW0M8&t=7s[/size]

I see it as a means to an end following our learning curve. Energy storage is a huge issue which opens up many other roads to greater efficiency. The new batteries use organic materials and oxide layers doubling the energy density of the current LiPo battery technology. As I implied, energy storage can allow multiple energy sources to be utilized. There are three phases, energy production, energy storage and energy utilization.

It's hard to watch that video as it kinda tears me up but it just goes to show all the push for an EV switch over from fossil fuels is not a good idea. Anyway with Capitalism it's just like Meyer says in that the cheapest will win out in the end and I am fairly certain that this technology will be the cheapest with me behind the wheel, but I welcome the competition just as long as it's moves to solve our climate change problems.

Indeed, it's heartbreaking however we must always keep the bigger picture in mind as inventors. For example, T.H.Moray invented an electrical device with no moving parts which could produce almost 20kW per cubic foot. That's 26 hp per cubic foot of volume with no moving parts and no fuel of any kind. If that doesn't blow your mind then nothing will and it's a good indication of just how far behind the technology curve we are. Were basically cave men, which is cool I suppose, lol...

Regards
AC