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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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onepower

stivep
Quote1. What is the source of  initial energy used by the Holcomb system/device ?
2. How that energy is extracted and  converted to energy  at output of Holcomb system/ device.?
3. Is initial energy used by  Holcomb  system/device  higher than its output energy or reverse  and why?

This is a common misconception but energy is not something it is a condition of something and the condition is motion.

For example, if we had ten cubic meters of hydrogen gas some might say it only has X energy as heat when we burn it. However this is not the total available energy due to the external conditions. We could use the lighter than air hydrogen gas to lift a mass 30 km from the ground, burn the hydrogen retaining the heat in the mass, then generate even more heat from a propeller driven friction device as it falls all the way back to the ground. Thus the total energy is the heat of combustion stored in the mass and the heat generated by the work in falling 30 km.

Which begs the question... where did the supposedly extra energy come from?.

There is no extra energy per say and we simply utilized more of the potential ways in which we could transform more energy within the open system. You see most pretend everything operates in closed systems however as I have just shown this is not the case. Since energy is a condition as motion in an open system we should look beyond simple conversions.

Thus what your asking is a loaded question with a presumption built into it. Your fallacy was that you implied the initial energy was the only energy present in a closed system to be converted into the resulting energy. We know this is not true because Holcomb has claimed his device generates extra energy from another energy source relating to the steel cores and electron spin.

Regards
AC

truesearch

@AC

I find your analysis and suggests interesting. . . .  To take it one small step further is that in your hypothetical example of using the "hydrogen gas" to lift a mass to 30 km is that at that altitude the gas SHOULD be fairly pressurized so perhaps releasing that pressure through a turbine as it is burnt would harvest even abit MORE energy. . .

SolarLab

Quote from: stivep on August 01, 2022, 09:41:23 AM

Thank you for your response dear rakarskiy.
I assume you expected more precise questions.

1. What is the source of  initial energy used by the Holcomb system/device ?
2. How that energy is extracted and  converted to energy  at output of Holcomb system/ device.?
3. Is initial energy used by  Holcomb  system/device  higher than its output energy or reverse  and why?

Please describe entire process starting from initial energy in the  Holcomb  system/device .
note: wording "Holcomb  system/device"  should be understood as system and/or device .
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Answer:
By USA Department of Energy - US Energy Administration Information
The spinning of the electrons around the nucleus of an atom creates a tiny magnetic field.
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/magnets-and-electricity.php

Permanent magnets do have potential energy, stored in their magnetic field.
That energy can be compared to the potential energy of some compressed spring.
Once "spring" is released you need to do work to reload it. ( - repositioning the magnets, back)
https://physics.
and that is why "permanent magnet motor" stops sooner or later.
note: "permanent magnet motor" should be understood as no external energy rotating device

magnetic force does not do work.!!!!
Some Russians may also try to understand a very interesting and helpful explanation for American kids - high schoolers ( link below )
- and by that it should be also easy for some audience here I assume.
https://van.physics.illinois.edu/
Please provide any scientifically recognized literature conforming that Overunity devices exists and its examples.



Wesley

stivep,
Some great research (web snippets) - however:

stivep

Quote from: onepower on August 01, 2022, 11:25:07 AM
Holcomb has claimed his device generates extra energy from another energy source relating to the "steel cores and electron spin process"
Regards
AC
Utilization of  given fixed amount of energy available from the source even in the most efficient way,  sooner or later dissipates  all of it.
example: car gasoline tank, will at some point be empty.
Can you explain,  the "steel cores and electron spin process" in Holcomb device, e.g based on their patent, (if there is any patent explaining it)
Please provide me with  Holcomb patent number explaining this process.

Wesley

 

SolarLab

Quote from: stivep on August 01, 2022, 01:24:44 PM
Utilization of  given fixed amount of energy available from the source even in the most efficient way,  sooner or later dissipates  all of it.
example: car gasoline tank, will at some point be empty.
Can you explain,  the "steel cores and electron spin process" in Holcomb device, e.g based on their patent, (if there is any patent explaining it)
Please provide me with  Holcomb patent number explaining this process.

Wesley



All explained in this video:

https://holcombenergysystems.com/video/  (including the "electron spin" source 'proof discovery' information)

bottom video on the page "The HES Mechanism" [there's also a long and a short version - view both if need be]

Please direct any further questions regarding this technology and how it works to Dr. Holcomb himself or his in-house staff.
You may also contact the group that 'imaged the magnetic process' (this information is found in the video).

Thanks.

Patents and other information are found here:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99432#msg99432