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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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Ufopolitics


Hello All,



I agree with Bistander, in the fact that the way that rotor is wound has no sense from the wiring side or the magnetic output side. IMHO, it does not output a strong Magnetic Field outwards, but "mini fields"...however, as they are mentioning on Patent, that is their purpose, to start with a very low intensity field...


Now, apart from all "possible technical errors"...let's filter just the "Basic Principle"


And so, I, basically like to see the Big Picture here...and that is Rotating a Magnetic Field through metal cores and windings...the Basic Principle here...and so, the means to achieve it,  could be right or wrong...I still remain with the Basic Principle.


So, I want to bring out here a couple of frame images from an animation scene I created a long time ago...(I had to scrap it from old drives, so glad I found it!!)... but now I consider it is of great value...


If We analyze a typical Lap Wound Armature Magnetic Field, simple, two brush type, two stators, while it is in Rotation...and, yes, this "scenario" applies to ALL Motors, PM DC or Universal Type, no matter if Three (3) poles all the way to 36 Poles.


We realize the Rotor Magnetic Field is completely Static*...while the rotor steel frame and copper windings are rotating...as the Two (Positive-Negative) Brushes imaginary line defines the North from the South Poles of the Field...


This Field Static Positioning (Independently of multiple series coils being reversing electrical and magnetic polarization at millisecond rates), this Static Field causes the steel rotor (that could be of massive weight) to spin...


completely static* Yes, I know it is not perfectly static, as there are acceleration and deceleration forces involved, which makes it oscillate in the borders, as a tendency to diverge the field in the sense of rotation in some kind of distortion.


And, please, correct me if I am wrong, anytime.


Point here is simple...we have a Steel Rotor with windings spinning THROUGH an invisible field, which remains STATIC.

Now, let's do the "REVERSE ENGINEERING" of above fact.

Why, can we just hold the Rotor-Coils assembly in place, keeping same air gap...and spin the same, intensity Field?

We all had this scenario in front of our eyes for hundred of years... :(






Cheers






Ufopolitics
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Ufopolitics

@Bistander,


Don't this type of winding on Holcomb's Design, reminds you of the typical Outrunner BLDC Inner Static Armature winding?...where coils are basically wound on each pole?


And the BLDC (Hub Motor Type, Outrunner) uses Three Phase DC (Square Wave), but also set at 120º apart....some work with a sensor and others use one of the phase as the guidance for positioning...




See attached image...




Cheers




Ufopolitics
Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind:Study the science of art. Study the art of science.
Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
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bistander

Quote from: Ufopolitics on April 02, 2022, 02:02:53 PM
Hello All,

...
Now, let's do the "REVERSE ENGINEERING" of above fact.

Why, can we just hold the Rotor-Coils assembly in place, keeping same air gap...and spin the same, intensity Field?

We all had this scenario in front of our eyes for hundred of years... :(
...
Ufopolitics

Yes Ufo,
We have it. With the polyphase AC stator. Stationary steel and copper with a rotating constant magnitude magnetic field. That field can be 2-pole, 4-pole, 6 ...., just like you can develope with the wound (or PM) rotating rotor. A charge in the air gap won't know the difference.
bi

bistander

Quote from: Ufopolitics on April 02, 2022, 02:27:10 PM
@Bistander,


Don't this type of winding on Holcomb's Design, reminds you of the typical Outrunner BLDC Inner Static Armature winding?...where coils are basically wound in each pole?


And the BLDC (Hub Motor Type, Outrunner) uses Three Phase DC (Square Wave), but also set at 120º apart....some work with a sensor and others use one of the phase as the guidance for positioning...




See attached image...




Cheers




Ufopolitics

Sorta. But what you show is an armature, not a field winding. The field on that motor is PM, and a lot more than 2 or 4 poles. What you see in the photo are teeth and slots, not poles. The magnets determine the number of poles. If you were to wire those coils like they did for a 2-pole application, you'd have the same issue.... only 2 effective coils and a lot of wasted copper.
bi

Ufopolitics

Quote from: bistander on April 02, 2022, 02:30:57 PM
Yes Ufo,
We have it. With the polyphase AC stator. Stationary steel and copper with a rotating constant magnitude magnetic field. That field can be 2-pole, 4-pole, 6 ...., just like you can develope with the wound (or PM) rotating rotor. A charge in the air gap won't know the difference.
bi


So, what you are saying is basically what Cotnoir did...in his own way of winding and switching...He used 6 Poles in his outer static rotor.


Now, in the other scenario, (lap winding) when we apply power to coils in series, with a "T" derivation to commutator element, and apply power at just two or four points of armature coils...current will remain the same within the whole series of coils, typically lower, no matter if we apply more power (V) to Armature...that is what happens in any lap wound motor...as I will dare to say that it even lowers amps, as we increase V...correct?




Regards




Ufopolitics
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Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
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