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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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onepower

bistander
QuoteYes, AC, I've read your take on it before.
So when you say "There is no free lunch and the most obvious question is where is the extra motion on the input?", you really mean "There is no free lunch and the most obvious question is where is the extra energy on the input?", right?

The terms Energy and Motion both relate to how much something changes with respect to time so we can use them in the same context.
In general terms energy always relates to the motion of something with respect to everything else. As Einstein said "Nothing happens until something moves", key word move.

QuoteIsn't that the whole point of Holcomb's invention? There is no extra energy on the input. The device makes it inside the iron and delivers it on the output. That's what we're supposed to buy.

I think I see the problem, I considered the extra energy from the electron spins in the iron as an additional input into the system. We input X energy into the system, the extra electron spins in the iron input an additional Y energy into the system, the total output is then X+Y. I assumed this was true because Holcomb was using a series setup where the input energy was not dissipated within the device.

Think of it this way, I analyze a system just like you would however I also pay extra attention to the energy flow which most people ignore. I do this because first and foremost were speaking about an energy device.

QuoteSo I'll answer your obvious question. There is no extra energy on the input, hence no extra energy on the output.

If this were true then the whole device would simply act like an inductor, energy in equals energy out, not a FE generator in my opinion.

AC

kolbacict

Quote from: SolarLab on December 16, 2022, 04:16:21 PM

To increase the "speed" of the sliding (or rotating) Magnetic Field all that needs to be done is increase the input Frequency (Pulse Rate).

Hello. Yes, but it was already done this spring, I seems it was Bi, using a mechanical switch from the electric motor manifold. With an increase in the switching frequency, the output power at the stator actually increased. But up to a certain frequency limit, then there was some kind of breakdown, and a drop in power. In my experiments, I also could not get more power at the output than was fed to the input.

bistander

Quote from: onepower on December 17, 2022, 01:34:11 AM
bistander
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If this were true then the whole device would simply act like an inductor, energy in equals energy out, not a FE generator in my opinion.

AC

Hi AC,
I get the feeling that you believe in Holcomb's invention and that it delivers free energy. Why then doesn't every other motor, generator and transformer deliver this same free, or extra energy? What is different or special about his device or method?
I've not seen any clues in his patents, have you?
bi

bistander

Quote from: kolbacict on December 17, 2022, 01:40:09 AM
Hello. Yes, but it was already done this spring, I seems it was Bi, using a mechanical switch from the electric motor manifold. With an increase in the switching frequency, the output power at the stator actually increased. But up to a certain frequency limit, then there was some kind of breakdown, and a drop in power. In my experiments, I also could not get more power at the output than was fed to the input.

Correction, it was Ufopolitics, I think.
bi

Dog-One

Quote from: bistander on December 17, 2022, 01:54:33 AM
Why then doesn't every other motor, generator and transformer deliver this same free, or extra energy?

Oh but they do, it's just the billing department that keeps getting things wrong.   ;)

I wonder when we can add:
https://holcombenergysystems.com/
to these big names with their flashy product lines:
https://infinitysav.com/
https://ie.energy/

They're still out there with a bottomless pit of funding.  Got to wonder what is really going on, who is doing it and why.

I guess the next move will be LENR with all sorts of promises.  The promise you won't hear about is the meter that comes with it.

Seriously on the HES device, I've got to think with all the engineering that has taken place with motors and generators over the many years, someone would have stumbled over such a simple concept by accident multiple times.  I remember the sailors onboard ship in the motor winding shop, certainly if there was a way to coil-up a machine that could provide power to a warship, the skipper would have given them the green light to do so.  I never saw it, never heard anyone talk about, not even a rumor.  Can I say it never happened?  No, but it should have happened multiple times on multiple vessels and many of those guys go to port, drink a lot and say things that get them in trouble.  And I've seen these guys, what they can do with a chunk of steel and a spool of wire, mind blowing.  These guys in Holcomb's shop would be turning out pallet after pallet of units.  They'd be everywhere by now.  So what gives?  Apparently they aren't in it for the money, must be something else...

Oh that's right, they're going to save the world.